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Uncle_Gene wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:38 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:14 pm

Hopefully he'll wear Mavs or Warriors shoe colors the next few games.

I DON'T want him.

I think at this point, you should just start accepting that it’s happening haha

I’d be really surprised it is not done by the end of the week. My gut tells me it’s done by tomorrow tbh

It’s definitely happening

Yeah, I honestly think the big picture stuff is already agreed upon. It’s probably just sorting out the secondary compensation and random players to finish the deal and any last minute teams that want in.

I’ve got tickets to Saturday….

It's totally happening. I been telling you guys. I think they're waiting on Bucks to get a team to take Pat C

Kryptonic wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:10 pm

I’ve got tickets to Saturday….

I think we’re gonna be glad
I think it’s today
A player driving us mad is going away

Beal’s got a ticket to Cheese Town
Beal’s got a ticket to Chee-eese Town
Beal’s gonna play for the Bucks
And he don’t care


I can’t help it, this crap just pops into my head when I’m here.

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:21 pm

It's totally happening. I been telling you guys. I think they're waiting on Bucks to get a team to take Pat C

This is right. Bucks need to shed some salary to get under the second apron (~$6.5M)

Instant contender? Seriously? Who’s saying that, the same people who were saying it about KD-Book-Beal?

I still think big moving parts of the trade is worked thru just need to fill in the blanks because it’s a 4-5 team deal. I still think Friday is a good bet.

I won't try to project a timeline, but I think the framework is sound and unlikely to fall apart.

My guess is that it'll happen in stages but all the pieces will fit together to look like one big deal when all is done.

Cap wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:08 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:51 pm

Uncle_Gene wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:50 pm

Out of curiosity, how many people really want Jimmy Butler in a Sun's uniform ?

I think Sauce does...

I don’t, because Sauce is going to be insufferable if it happens.

Except Sauce can only be insufferable if we're winning.

Cap wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:08 pm

Instant contender? Seriously? Who’s saying that, the same people who were saying it about KD-Book-Beal?

The same people saying Knight was basically and all-star in the East.

Are we thinking it will be Butler for Beal and a first as well as a secondary trade to get something in for Nurk and a pick?

So this guy thinks that getting Tyus and Dunn and Plumlee got us an extra win in the first round?

Kryptonic wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:20 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:16 pm

I feel like we’ve always had better luck in the latter part of the first round…. Great deal if it’s true.

You think so?

Getting an unprotected pick in 2031 from a team with a more than questionable long term outlook seems to be a great deal if you are giving up a bottom 3 1stR in 2025 and whoever is worst from CLE/MIN/UTA in 2027 and 2029.

Of course Ishbia is looking only at the right now, and surely he believes he will be able to assemble a winning team during all these years where we owe the unprotected picks and swaps; but I wouldn't be surprised if the league made a rule to prevent owners to sell off the future like this.

We definitely are in a fairly hopeless state right now.

However, I'm still thrilled that we pulled a rabbit out of a hat like that. Did we sacrifice some potential future possibilities? We absolutely did. But we also did create chances for the next few years that we otherwise wouldn't have had at all.

I think the most crippling thing right now is the 2nd apron, and of course there's no guarantee that we can get below it if we are constantly chasing second or third max stars and paying them said maxes. But if we ever do get under it, the creativity that this front office has managed over the last couple of years has me cautiously optimistic that we can maybe at least remain in the lower seed playoff hunt with our current dearth of picks.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:43 am

We already have enough bad doomer takes here. We don't need @Dev_ATX as well.

pickle wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:10 am

We definitely are in a fairly hopeless state right now.

However, I'm still thrilled that we pulled a rabbit out of a hat like that. Did we sacrifice some potential future possibilities? We absolutely did. But we also did create chances for the next few years that we otherwise wouldn't have had at all.

I think the most crippling thing right now is the 2nd apron, and of course there's no guarantee that we can get below it if we are constantly chasing second or third max stars and paying them said maxes. But if we ever do get under it, the creativity that this front office has managed over the last couple of years has me cautiously optimistic that we can maybe at least remain in the lower seed playoff hunt with our current dearth of picks.

This is why I don't entirely grasp the rampant pessimism or some of the Ishbia slander.

Mat Ishbia didn't buy a basketball team to tank. Clearly he can't buy a championship (because no one really can in this NBA), but to think he's just going to sit back and accept sucking for one or several years is being selectively tone deaf. As far as I can tell, he will always try to put a competitive product on the court with the goal of winning a title. Why are people so bitter about that?