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Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:59 am
by carey
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:42 pm
That is such a bad take. The Hornets were hitting their stride when Boogie went down. Before his injury they had won 10 of their last 13 games. After he went down, they lost 5 of their next 6 before adjusting to his loss.
Not really. Once they traded for Mirotic both offense and defense improved. I had this exact conversation with someone on Twitter who told me it was a bad take.

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Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:25 am
by O_Gardino
carey wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:00 pm
That really, really sucks for him. It was a bad summer to be a FA but looking over his stats I can't see how he isn't worth more than the minimum. He rebounded well. He was never a particularly gifted scorer. Hopefully next year is a player option and he can get himself a decent contract when everyone has money to throw around again.
I think people still overvalue Noel based on his pre-draft hype. He has literally played fewer games and fewer minutes per game in each of his NBA seasons. 3 teams in 4 years and each one plays him less. He's just not good. His best quality is that he's an average rebounder.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:54 am
by JCSunsfan
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:59 am
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:42 pm
That is such a bad take. The Hornets were hitting their stride when Boogie went down. Before his injury they had won 10 of their last 13 games. After he went down, they lost 5 of their next 6 before adjusting to his loss.
Not really. Once they traded for Mirotic both offense and defense improved. I had this exact conversation with someone on Twitter who told me it was a bad take.

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Mirotic is a very underrated player. He is one of those players that oils the machine. Everything goes better when he is on the court. It happened in Chicago and it happened in NO.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:52 pm
by Split T
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1014234887530926080 Indy is gonna be fun.

Collison/Oladipo/Bogdonavich/Young/Turner with Holiday/Tyreke/McDermott/Sabonis off the bench

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
by JeremyG
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:18 pm
by Drewsprocket
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.
Pass. He’s too much toxicity for developing Ayton. Boogie is widely known for putting up meaningless stats, cancer in the locker room, and doesn’t play D. We don’t need Ayton to develop that way.
Ariza is a winner. He brings heart and skill to our developing wings.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:25 pm
by Split T
Milwaukee, washington, Portland, OKC, Toronto...those are the teams that should have gone after cousins

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:31 pm
by Hermen
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.
Who knows. On a one year deal he maybe wanted to go to a playoff team. It gives him more time to recover from his injury, bigger exposure and his first playoff appearance. Better chances of securing a big contract next year.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:33 pm
by bajanguy008
this one is a done deal
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1014241081867800576

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:34 pm
by Hermen
Split T wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:25 pm
Milwaukee, washington, Portland, OKC, Toronto...those are the teams that should have gone after cousins
But they could only offer MLE as well right? Only a bit larger than GSW. Wouldn't he go to the Warriors anyway in that case?

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:41 pm
by JeremyG
Hermen wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:31 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.
Who knows. On a one year deal he maybe wanted to go to a playoff team. It gives him more time to recover from his injury, bigger exposure and his first playoff appearance. Better chances of securing a big contract next year.
Yeah but if it’s true that he had gotten zero offers and eventually came up with the idea of contacting the Warriors...I think he would have taken a Suns offer of 1/15 on Sunday.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:44 pm
by bajanguy008
bajanguy008 wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:33 pm
this one is a done deal
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1014241081867800576
https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1014242825075150848

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:44 pm
by Split T
Hermen wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:34 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:25 pm
Milwaukee, washington, Portland, OKC, Toronto...those are the teams that should have gone after cousins
But they could only offer MLE as well right? Only a bit larger than GSW. Wouldn't he go to the Warriors anyway in that case?
Possibly, but he may have taken the 8-9 million with one of those teams...he is buddies with Bledsoe and Wall

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:59 pm
by BlaCkAdDa
What he didn't get an an offer from the pelicans?

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:29 pm
by O_Gardino
Drewsprocket wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:18 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.
Pass. He’s too much toxicity for developing Ayton. Boogie is widely known for putting up meaningless stats, cancer in the locker room, and doesn’t play D. We don’t need Ayton to develop that way.
Ariza is a winner. He brings heart and skill to our developing wings.
True .neter at heart when your first post is slamming a star on another team while pimping a role player on ours. Welcome.

I agree about Cousins. I think he's a great fit for a winning team, but I think he's trouble if you are struggling to make the playoffs.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:31 pm
by O_Gardino
BlaCkAdDa wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:59 pm
What he didn't get an an offer from the pelicans?
He says he didn't. They say they did make an offer. I hope we get more details.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:34 pm
by TOO
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:29 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:18 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.
Pass. He’s too much toxicity for developing Ayton. Boogie is widely known for putting up meaningless stats, cancer in the locker room, and doesn’t play D. We don’t need Ayton to develop that way.
Ariza is a winner. He brings heart and skill to our developing wings.
True .neter at heart when your first post is slamming a star on another team while pimping a role player on ours. Welcome.

I agree about Cousins. I think he's a great fit for a winning team, but I think he's trouble if you are struggling to make the playoffs.
:lol:


Also, I want no part of Cousins, we have Ayton.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:38 pm
by The Bobster
DeMarcus Cousins has been out of the playoffs longer than the Suns have.

I wouldn't want him for free.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:14 pm
by Split T
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1014266869673537537 Pretty good deal for exum...11 million and he hasn't really proven he's a reliable player.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:15 pm
by specialsauce
Glad the Suns didn’t get him