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Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:17 pm
by Cap
JCSunsfan wrote:
bajanguy008 wrote:Some interesting quotes here from Bled

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... 503306001/
Regarding player movement

"It's not over."
He's speaking league-wide, not saying anything is necessarily going to happen with the Suns.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:17 pm
by Superbone
What did you guys think of Bledsoe's severe disappointment about his benching last year?

First of all, I totally understand. The guy is a competitor. There is no way he should be happy or content with that. That being said, any way the Suns would entertain that again? Next year's draft is shaping up to be even deeper than this one. It seems to me that they had better trade him by the deadline if they have any thoughts of doing it again. I suppose the decision will be informed again by how we perform before the all-star break.

Re: RE: Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:00 pm
by carey
Superbone wrote:What did you guys think of Bledsoe's severe disappointment about his benching last year?

First of all, I totally understand. The guy is a competitor. There is no way he should be happy or content with that. That being said, any way the Suns would entertain that again? Next year's draft is shaping up to be even deeper than this one. It seems to me that they had better trade him by the deadline if they have any thoughts of doing it again. I suppose the decision will be informed again by how we perform before the all-star break.
Of course. It all depends on how we play but I expect at least 2 of our 4 older veterans will be gone by the deadline anyway.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:10 pm
by Mori Chu
What did you guys think of Bledsoe's severe disappointment about his benching last year?
I want him to want to play. I'm fine with him being upset/disappointed about it. Hopefully the org has sat down with him and tried to work it out together. They might not have J.Jackson without Bledsoe resting the end of the year.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:12 pm
by The Bobster
I wouldn't want a player on my team that wasn't unhappy with being shut down for the season without a health reason.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:43 pm
by O_Gardino
Superbone wrote:What did you guys think of Bledsoe's severe disappointment about his benching last year?

First of all, I totally understand. The guy is a competitor. There is no way he should be happy or content with that. That being said, any way the Suns would entertain that again? Next year's draft is shaping up to be even deeper than this one. It seems to me that they had better trade him by the deadline if they have any thoughts of doing it again. I suppose the decision will be informed again by how we perform before the all-star break.
I loved his disappointment and thought he couldn't have communicated it better in that interview.

And I agree that if we are in a situation to bench our Bledsoe again next season, we should move on from him.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:40 pm
by carey
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/890374187428319232 Wow. I wonder why they wouldn't reward him with a guaranteed deal?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:44 pm
by Cap
carey wrote:https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/890374187428319232 Wow. I wonder why they wouldn't reward him with a guaranteed deal?
Sounds like he took the first offer.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:50 pm
by carey
Cap wrote:
carey wrote: Sounds like he took the first offer.
Nah. He was on Bickley & Marotta today & said there was a while where he thought he was not coming back.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:50 pm
by Split T
Suns want cap flexibility. If we need need the space for a max deal, we'll part ways.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:18 pm
by Superbone
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... 514366001/
Ulis’ health

McDonough said Ulis, who underwent ankle surgery in mid-May, should be fully healthy for training camp. He said Ulis, who has added 10 pounds, is expected to be cleared to participate in five-on-five drills sometime in August.

Len’s status

McDonough said the Suns are still waiting to here from Len after extending him a one-year, $4.2 million qualifying offer.

“It’s up to Alex and his agent,” McDonough said. “It’s on the table. We’d like to have him back.”

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:29 pm
by Split T
Ulis could use some muscle

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:39 pm
by Cap
We offered Len the QO and are waiting to hear back? That's it? We haven't even offered a multi-year deal?

Come on. For all of Len's flaws, I'd definitely offer him more than 4.2/1. Opening with nothing more than the QO is an insult.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:41 pm
by TOO
It's also good business for a guy who has no market.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:56 pm
by O_Gardino
Cap wrote:We offered Len the QO and are waiting to hear back? That's it? We haven't even offered a multi-year deal?

Come on. For all of Len's flaws, I'd definitely offer him more than 4.2/1. Opening with nothing more than the QO is an insult.
I kind of agree. Williams gets more $ that after playing half the minutes. Len has to be looking at the Williams contract and thinking he at least gets that.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:07 pm
by The Bobster
Cap wrote:We offered Len the QO and are waiting to hear back? That's it? We haven't even offered a multi-year deal?

Come on. For all of Len's flaws, I'd definitely offer him more than 4.2/1. Opening with nothing more than the QO is an insult.
“It’s up to Alex and his agent. Obviously, that’s on the table,” McDonough said. “We’d like to have him back.

“We’re certainly open to discussing different scenarios, potentially. But one way or another, we’d like to have him back.”

http://arizonasports.com/story/1187547/ ... -alex-len/

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:52 pm
by In2ition
I thought this was an interesting trade proposal.

https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/07/27/ ... enix-suns/

The problems I see are that New York gives up too much, basically gutting their team, but maybe they would like to do that. The other problem is that it's been reported that Melo has his heart set on Houston and refuses to waive his no trade clause for any team other than Houston. From the Suns perspective, I think they would probably do it. I'm not sure that Cleveland would do it, as they believe that they should get a Kings ransom for Kyrie.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:28 pm
by Cap
KP and Leaky? I'd be very tempted. The cost is high, but so is the potential.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:29 pm
by ShelC
Damn that's a good trade.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:05 pm
by Superbone
O_Gardino wrote:
Cap wrote:We offered Len the QO and are waiting to hear back? That's it? We haven't even offered a multi-year deal?

Come on. For all of Len's flaws, I'd definitely offer him more than 4.2/1. Opening with nothing more than the QO is an insult.
I kind of agree. Williams gets more $ that after playing half the minutes. Len has to be looking at the Williams contract and thinking he at least gets that.
My understanding is that only the first year of Williams' deal is guaranteed.