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Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:18 pm
by TOO
That is an insane deal to me. I just dont get it. Injury prone, can't shoot a lick, isn't really even a PG, insanity.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:25 pm
by ShelC
I really don't think it's that bad of a deal.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:29 pm
by TOO
Dante Exum has done nothing in the NBA, and he's missed as many games as he's played. 33m for potential is bonkers to me.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:33 pm
by JeremyG
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:29 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:18 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.
Pass. He’s too much toxicity for developing Ayton. Boogie is widely known for putting up meaningless stats, cancer in the locker room, and doesn’t play D. We don’t need Ayton to develop that way.
Ariza is a winner. He brings heart and skill to our developing wings.
True .neter at heart when your first post is slamming a star on another team while pimping a role player on ours. Welcome.

I agree about Cousins. I think he's a great fit for a winning team, but I think he's trouble if you are struggling to make the playoffs.
We wouldn’t be struggling to make the playoffs if we had (a close to 100% healthy) Cousins at PF. We would be the 6 seed.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:42 pm
by Shabazz
Split T wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:14 pm
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1014266869673537537 Pretty good deal for exum...11 million and he hasn't really proven he's a reliable player.
That's a lot more than I though he would get.

Tyreke for 1 year/$12M was a good pickup by Indiana.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:49 pm
by INFORMER
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:59 am
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:42 pm
That is such a bad take. The Hornets were hitting their stride when Boogie went down. Before his injury they had won 10 of their last 13 games. After he went down, they lost 5 of their next 6 before adjusting to his loss.
Not really. Once they traded for Mirotic both offense and defense improved. I had this exact conversation with someone on Twitter who told me it was a bad take.

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But that's not the exact conversation. I wasn't even talking about Mirotic. The tweet was claiming the Hornets sucked with Cousins and implied that just by him having him out of the lineup, they got better. That isn't even close to being accurate.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:51 pm
by INFORMER
Split T wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:14 pm
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1014266869673537537 Pretty good deal for exum...11 million and he hasn't really proven he's a reliable player.
There has to be some non-guaranteed money involved. That's a serious investment for a completely unproven player.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:10 pm
by SDC
Charles Barkley Says He Would Rather ‘Not Win’ a Championship Than Join a ‘Super Team’

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Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:42 pm
by carey
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1014366893321355269

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:55 pm
by carey
https://twitter.com/jgsiegel/status/1014368778761588736 Same team that wouldn't pay Harden?

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:03 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.
He is projected to return until december, and if he isn’t motivated to do it, maybe until january. After all, he would be looking to showcase himself as healthy enough for that next contract, so he only needs to play the last couple months. I definitely don’t want us to be the sucker that pays for his rehabilitation and then borrow him a stage for his audition tour, a waste for everyone on the team but Cousins.

Re: RE: Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:37 pm
by carey
INFORMER wrote:
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:59 am
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:42 pm
That is such a bad take. The Hornets were hitting their stride when Boogie went down. Before his injury they had won 10 of their last 13 games. After he went down, they lost 5 of their next 6 before adjusting to his loss.
Not really. Once they traded for Mirotic both offense and defense improved. I had this exact conversation with someone on Twitter who told me it was a bad take.

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But that's not the exact conversation. I wasn't even talking about Mirotic. The tweet was claiming the Hornets sucked with Cousins and implied that just by him having him out of the lineup, they got better. That isn't even close to being accurate.
The Pelicans, you mean? And also, Boogie's injury occured January 26th and Mirotic was acquired February 1st. So do you mean the 5 days of games Cousins was hurt and the Pels had yet to trade for Nikola?

You can't make the argument that Mirotic is irrelevant to the point because he got there immediately after & their play immediately improved.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:02 pm
by In2ition
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:42 pm
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1014366893321355269
Maybe they should have just kept and paid Harden. Just a thought...

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:10 pm
by carey
Kobi Simmons has looked good for Memphis.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:11 pm
by UglyTruth
In2ition wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:02 pm
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:42 pm
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1014366893321355269
Maybe they should have just kept and paid Harden. Just a thought...
Different ownership then vs now.

Re: RE: Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:13 pm
by carey
UglyTruth wrote:
In2ition wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:02 pm
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:42 pm
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1014366893321355269
Maybe they should have just kept and paid Harden. Just a thought...
Different ownership then vs now.
Huh? Clay Bennet still owns the Thunder, right?

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:19 pm
by Drewsprocket
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:34 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:29 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:18 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:12 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
Apparently, Cousins did not get any offer from any team in the NBA, so he reached out to the Warriors.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/3/17530 ... y-pelicans
This is disgusting. Suns could have had him for 1 year/15 million easily. Instead of Ariza.
Pass. He’s too much toxicity for developing Ayton. Boogie is widely known for putting up meaningless stats, cancer in the locker room, and doesn’t play D. We don’t need Ayton to develop that way.
Ariza is a winner. He brings heart and skill to our developing wings.
True .neter at heart when your first post is slamming a star on another team while pimping a role player on ours. Welcome.

I agree about Cousins. I think he's a great fit for a winning team, but I think he's trouble if you are struggling to make the playoffs.
:lol:


Also, I want no part of Cousins, we have Ayton.
+1

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:21 pm
by JustWinBaby
In2ition wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:02 pm
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:42 pm
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1014366893321355269


Maybe they should have just kept and paid Harden. Just a thought...
Why? They got Kevin Martin and a whole bunch of really good draft picks. While losing that huge salary the Kevin Durant demands.

It would have been just awful to have a core of Durant, Westbrook and Harden.

Re: RE: Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:22 pm
by UglyTruth
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:13 pm
UglyTruth wrote:
In2ition wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:02 pm
carey wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:42 pm
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1014366893321355269
Maybe they should have just kept and paid Harden. Just a thought...
Different ownership then vs now.
Huh? Clay Bennet still owns the Thunder, right?
He’s chairman of the Basketball group that owns the Thunder but there were changes in the group after one of the owners died in 2016. OKC fans claim these changes are for the betterment of the team.

Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:45 pm
by MightyMoog
Cousins only makes sense in GS. If a team like the Suns were to sign him, they'd only have him for 1 year. Because we'd still need cap room next year to be able to retain him. Zach Lowe explains this on his podcast really well. He needed a team that had a open roster spot for a center that would be good and really only cared about next year. His other option would have been Houston, but he wasn't going to start over Capela. Boston maybe? But again not starting over Horford.