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Empire of the Suns draft preview is out:

https://arizonasports.com/story/2437589 ... e-running/

Not certain on this, but for giggles...

Kelly and 10 to Golden State as has been discussed for the 2 ..but take Toppin with the second pick? Just passing time...

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Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:46 am

Not certain on this, but for giggles...

Kelly and 10 to Golden State as has been discussed for the 2 ..but take Toppin with the second pick? Just passing time...

VT

I wouldn't trade Kelly for 2 straight up, so no way I do Kelly and 10 for 2.

From AZ Republic:

Jones noted he’s looking to add shooting when it comes to the Nov. 18 draft. The Suns have the 10th overall pick. Stanford’s Tyrell Terry and TCU’s Desmond Bane have had lengthy conversations with the Suns during the draft process.

Terry shot 40.8% from 3 in his one and only season at Stanford while Bane knocked down 44.2% of his 3s his senior year at TCU.

“They’re going to play open basketball and 3-point shooting is going to become a premium for them,” TCU coach Jamie Dixon said earlier this fall. “I think (Bane) fits there. I think he fits the culture. I think he fits what they’re looking for in character. That’s what I understand they’re looking for. A big part of it is character on and off the floor.”

I’m sure James Jones is salivating at the idea of adding Desmond Bane. He’s just 100% his type of guy. I’d be pretty happy with Terry too. If you could somehow move 10 to Boston for 14 and 26 and draft both? I’d call that a win. Boston would need their guy to be available at 10 though.

Split T wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:27 pm

I’m sure James Jones is salivating at the idea of adding Desmond Bane. He’s just 100% his type of guy. I’d be pretty happy with Terry too. If you could somehow move 10 to Boston for 14 and 26 and draft both? I’d call that a win. Boston would need their guy to be available at 10 though.

You'd get maybe Bane and probably Terry at 14, don't think either will be at 26. Bane is a well coached upperclassmen so I see why we'd be high on him. Terry could be a sleeper and from interviews I think would fit in well on the team even tho he's 20.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:42 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:27 pm

I’m sure James Jones is salivating at the idea of adding Desmond Bane. He’s just 100% his type of guy. I’d be pretty happy with Terry too. If you could somehow move 10 to Boston for 14 and 26 and draft both? I’d call that a win. Boston would need their guy to be available at 10 though.

You'd get maybe Bane and probably Terry at 14, don't think either will be at 26. Bane is a well coached upperclassmen so I see why we'd be high on him. Terry could be a sleeper and from interviews I think would fit in well on the team even tho he's 20.

I wasn’t on the big on the trade down talk but as we get closer I think this might be the best route. 10 for 14 & 26 is totally fair.

Cap wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:39 pm

I guess I'm insane too. Because he made a college three pointer? Ok. That's what I do too.

It's insane he made it since he shoots like a lefty Shawn Marion.

The video is cool. The comment over the top may be over the top.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:14 pm

From AZ Republic:

Jones noted he’s looking to add shooting when it comes to the Nov. 18 draft. The Suns have the 10th overall pick. Stanford’s Tyrell Terry and TCU’s Desmond Bane have had lengthy conversations with the Suns during the draft process.

Terry shot 40.8% from 3 in his one and only season at Stanford while Bane knocked down 44.2% of his 3s his senior year at TCU.

“They’re going to play open basketball and 3-point shooting is going to become a premium for them,” TCU coach Jamie Dixon said earlier this fall. “I think (Bane) fits there. I think he fits the culture. I think he fits what they’re looking for in character. That’s what I understand they’re looking for. A big part of it is character on and off the floor.”

So would they not take Hayes if he fell to them in the draft because he is not an elite shooter? Is James Jones trying to Moneyball the Suns roster?

Cap wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:04 pm

The video is cool. The comment over the top may be over the top.

Left/right politics aside, I always think it's fun when the President is athletic. For example, I was quite surprised and impressed when W Bush threw out the first pitch at a baseball game and it whizzed right over home plate, right in the strike zone. And Obama is known to like playing pickup basketball.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:42 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:27 pm

I’m sure James Jones is salivating at the idea of adding Desmond Bane. He’s just 100% his type of guy. I’d be pretty happy with Terry too. If you could somehow move 10 to Boston for 14 and 26 and draft both? I’d call that a win. Boston would need their guy to be available at 10 though.

You'd get maybe Bane and probably Terry at 14, don't think either will be at 26. Bane is a well coached upperclassmen so I see why we'd be high on him. Terry could be a sleeper and from interviews I think would fit in well on the team even tho he's 20.

Ya, you’re right, I doubt either would make it to 26. We’d have to trade back up if we wanted both. Bane does seem to be rising, I was always a little surprised he was so low in he first place. I didn’t know who he was and I’d hear him mentioned as a sleeper. I expected to find a good shooter who was limited elsewhere, but turns out he’s a pretty good hard nosed defender and has some real passing chops as well. He’s also not just a good shooter, but I’d say a top 2-3 shooter in this class. I think his range is 10-18. He makes way too much sense for Dallas at 18, I’d be surprised if they let him slip past them.

Maybe we still trade down to 14/26. Take one of Terry/Lewis/Bane at 14 and then go after frontcourt help at 26. I doubt Jalen Smith lasts that far, but Precious Achiuwa might and he’s an intriguing defensive prospect with some offensive upside. Jaden Mcdaniels is more of a wing, but he’s got length if he fills out to play the 4 and has some real potential. Tyler Bey is intriguing as a small ball 4/5. He’s got a 7’1 wingspan and just measured a 44 inch vert. 3 pt shot is progressing as well. Paul Reed has some fans too. I’d also throw in Zeke Nnaji, especially if the rumored 3pt shot is for real.

The draft is really a crapshoot IMO, especially with the break in play, no tourney, no real workouts or interviews in person. I don't know that there's a ton of talent differential between the guards, just a matter of who you'd prefer and how they'd fit on the roster. We need a big, but Jones seems to prefer swings and shooters and there don't seem to be bigs worth taking where we are. We have Payne and Jevon, but need a PG of the future. We have Mikal, Cam and Kelly on the wings, but Kelly's TBD with his contract. Dario and Baynes are TBD as well.

It really is, even at the top. Think this year could be very similar to 2013 when we saw Anthony Bennett go first overall. I think it’s probably going to be either Anthony Edwards or James Wiseman, but there’s another 3 guys who could go 1 and I wouldn’t be surprised.

If I had to guess what the suns board looks like(for people with a reasonable shot at being there at 10) I’d say it goes:

1. Haliburton
2. Terry
3. Bane
4. Lewis
5. Williams
6. Vassell
7. Smith

No feel for where we’d have Hayes, though I think it’s highly unlikely he lasts till 10. I’d like to think we’d have him 1 or 2, but not sure.

I was going through my own personal mock, trying to figure out what teams would do, and I do kinda think there’s a chance Toppin falls to 10. Not sure what the suns would do in that scenario. But I don’t think there’s a great fit in the top 9 teams for him. Perhaps Cleveland if they find a place to move Love. Perhaps GS if they trade down?

If Hayes and Haliburton are gone and we don't want to move up...why not Achiwua at 10? Likely this has been brought up, but I'm bored and lazy...so......

VT

Interesting in the drafts to see the variety of fall predictions out there...some even had Hayes or Haliburton falling to us...made me go hmm..

Hayes
Halburton
Achiuwa or Terry
Williams

I think its one of those 5...want Hayes or Haliburton, likely Terry or Achiuwa would be my guess.

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Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:55 am

Cap wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:04 pm

The video is cool. The comment over the top may be over the top.

Left/right politics aside, I always think it's fun when the President is athletic. For example, I was quite surprised and impressed when W Bush threw out the first pitch at a baseball game and it whizzed right over home plate, right in the strike zone. And Obama is known to like playing pickup basketball.

True. If Trump took the shot, it would be at least 2 feet short. GUARANTEED!

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:59 am

If Hayes and Haliburton are gone and we don't want to move up...why not Achiwua at 10? Likely this has been brought up, but I'm bored and lazy...so......

VT

I think Achiuwa can be a pretty elite defensive player. He’s gonna be able to potentially defend 1-5. The offense is a big question though. I read that he thinks himself to be a Pascal Siakim type, but haven’t seen that yet. Can’t really shoot at this point. If he was willing to just defend like crazy and be a roll man on defense, I could see him as a backup at the 4/5. Feel like guard is more important though.