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Sunsfan4life wrote:George Hill, Vince Carter, Z-Bo....

These are acquisitions teams that are close to a championship make. Not one from a bottom 3 team in the west. No Idea what sacramento is doing, but I expect them to be the center of attention at the deadline again.

I figure Vince might have tried a ring chase but maybe he just gone to mentor the young Tar Heel Justin

I like what they're doing. They could make a nice jump next year.

carey wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883119989053632513 Old man Vince still rollin. I don't really know why Sacramento is snapping up all these redundant veterans. They really want to win 35 games, huh?

Richard Jefferson re-upped with Cleveland too.

Carter is fascinating. He played 9 so years as a premier player (depending how you count them), with his last all-star appearance at age 30 in 2007. This will be his 11th year since.

9 yrs as a star: ~ $72.5 Million
11 yrs since: ~ $109.5 Million

I like that Gay acquisition for San Antonio. They need more scoring, and they can probably find a way to get the most out of him. Seems like a reasonable contract, too.

That Olynyk signing shows how little allure the city of Miami, and ringleader Pat Riley, really have. That's the best free agent they can get? A mediocre bench tweener PF/C at too high a salary? Blech. They'll probably be okay next year given their strong coaching, good PG, good center, and the generally strong 30-11 performance they ended last season with. But they're probably a low playoff seed (6-8) at best. Not very excited about them.

Those moves by Sacramento are ridiculous to me. Why did they sign Zach Randolph? And really, Vince Carter? What does a 40-year-old Vince bring to a lottery team exactly?

O_Gardino wrote:

carey wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883119989053632513 Old man Vince still rollin. I don't really know why Sacramento is snapping up all these redundant veterans. They really want to win 35 games, huh?

Richard Jefferson re-upped with Cleveland too.

Carter is fascinating. He played 9 so years as a premier player (depending how you count them), with his last all-star appearance at age 30 in 2007. This will be his 11th year since.

9 yrs as a star: ~ $72.5 Million
11 yrs since: ~ $109.5 Million

Cool post O_G , really shows how the market has changed.

O_Gardino wrote:9 yrs as a star: ~ $72.5 Million
11 yrs since: ~ $109.5 Million

Annnnd... that's why he's still playing. Lol.

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:9 yrs as a star: ~ $72.5 Million
11 yrs since: ~ $109.5 Million

Annnnd... that's why he's still playing. Lol.

I don't think so. I think he still loves to play. Nice bene though.

Superbone wrote:

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:9 yrs as a star: ~ $72.5 Million
11 yrs since: ~ $109.5 Million

Annnnd... that's why he's still playing. Lol.

I don't think so. I think he still loves to play. Nice bene though.

Agreed. Contrary to what was said (or implied) during his prime, turns out Vince actually loves the game.

Re. 9years $72.5M: rookie contract, guys.

Knicks signed Tim Hardaway Jr to a 4yr 71mil offer sheet which is kinda ridiculous but hey, Knicks gon' Knicks. Hawks can match. I wouldn't.

Wow. People are crazy. That contract is beyond imbecile. Hawks should laugh their ass off as they let expire the time to match. Incredible.

I could see a few things in play here...Knicks could be looking to move Courtney Lee in a potential Melo deal. They could also be looking to screw the Hawks' cap up, kind of like what BK would be doing to Washington if the Wiz match. But in that case, who cares about the Hawks. It's not like they're good or are a threat to the Knicks. The Wiz are a successful team already and screwing with their cap kind of limits them the next few years. Plus BK's offer was pretty badass with a 15% kicker and 50% money paid out before the season starts. Not sure the details of the Knicks' offer, but can't imagine it's that extreme. I also thought there may be an agent favor there, but THJ's agent doesn't have any big clients right now.

Well I will say this , second half of last season he was really balling (fantasy league team) lol but all jokes aside he was much more consistent and one of their better players. I just double checked the numbers and he avged 18ppg from Feb when PT went up. Only when it's the Suns I am concerned about the $$$ but over paying is the new normal these days , Crabbe never put up such numbers and got 4 - 75 and Otto bout to get 4 - 108 so que sera sera

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883323665680547842 https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/883324219295248384 Not the player I would have dealt. BOS saves a few million this year but Marcus still has one more year on his deal at $5M. Avery is expiring.

carey wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883323665680547842 https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/883324219295248384 Not the player I would have dealt. BOS saves a few million this year but Marcus still has one more year on his deal at $5M. Avery is expiring.

I feel they probably can't get Smart moved but still that's adding another SF to the logjam so strange move that

I've been a Bradley fan for years. Guy is one of the beter on ball defenders in the league and his offensive game has improved. I understand why the Celtcis did it, but I would of moved Crowoder for a 2nd rd pick instead. He has a sweetheart deal, so I'm surprised they had trouble moving him.

So to recap....Average to below average player in Olynak hauls in 12mil per and a washed up Carter goes for 8mil. Remember the time where we lost Joe Johnson, an asending star at the time because we didn't want to pay him was it like 6mil a year? So then we let him play out his contract and lost him to the Hawks. Times a changin...Love the fact Suns are sitting this out instead of throwing money at 9th and 10th guys off the bench.

bajanguy008 wrote:

carey wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883323665680547842 https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/883324219295248384 Not the player I would have dealt. BOS saves a few million this year but Marcus still has one more year on his deal at $5M. Avery is expiring.

I feel they probably can't get Smart moved but still that's adding another SF to the logjam so strange move that

I doubt Morris cracks their rotation. His contract is what they needed. They cleared exactly 3.8mil with the move and thats exactly what they needed to sign Hayward. Interesting that IT's cloest friend on the team is Bradly and they grew up together, I'm sure he's not happy with this.

Sunsfan4life wrote:So to recap....Average to below average player in Olynak hauls in 12mil per and a washed up Carter goes for 8mil. Remember the time where we lost Joe Johnson, an asending star at the time because we didn't want to pay him was it like 6mil a year? So then we let him play out his contract and lost him to the Hawks. Times a changin...Love the fact Suns are sitting this out instead of throwing money at 9th and 10th guys off the bench.

If I remember correctly, they offered $8 million a year and he wanted $9 million per. And then he ended up getting $14 million a year from Atlanta.

It was the beginning of the end.

Sunsfan4life wrote:

bajanguy008 wrote:

carey wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883323665680547842 https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/883324219295248384 Not the player I would have dealt. BOS saves a few million this year but Marcus still has one more year on his deal at $5M. Avery is expiring.

I feel they probably can't get Smart moved but still that's adding another SF to the logjam so strange move that

I doubt Morris cracks their rotation. His contract is what they needed. They cleared exactly 3.8mil with the move and thats exactly what they needed to sign Hayward. Interesting that IT's cloest friend on the team is Bradly and they grew up together, I'm sure he's not happy with this.

Yup posted about the friendship in a FB group, IT wife posted him dancing after the Hayward news so yea safe to say his mood probably change

Sunsfan4life wrote:I doubt Morris cracks their rotation. His contract is what they needed. They cleared exactly 3.8mil with the move and thats exactly what they needed to sign Hayward. Interesting that IT's cloest friend on the team is Bradly and they grew up together, I'm sure he's not happy with this.

He's a very average player - he really hasn't improved since his second year in the league.

He'll probably be dropped from the rotation as soon as playoff time comes around.

I don't see this as a serious threat to Cleveland...

PF - A.Johnson, M.Morris
SF - C.Crowder, J.Tatum, J.Brown
C - A.Horford
SG - G. Hayward, M.Smart
PG - I.Thomas, T.Rozier