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Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:09 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:54 am
Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:49 am
Maldonado wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:19 am
https://twitter.com/bakebomb/status/1012298966522847234
No clue about this guy
Based on this and that Tim guy, my guess would be a trade with Cleveland around Kevin Love (a “Big” coming here), involving expiring contracts and future picks, signaling them entering into rebuild and letting James go.
Make it Warren, Chriss and Dudley please, with the Mil pick and our own (heavily protected), and JUST Kevin coming here. II think Cleveland would want to dump JR Smith or Clarkson on us, and then I would counter with swapping Thompson for Chandler and Daniels (throw in) and lowering the protections on our pick (Top 4, just in case the ping pong balls smile at us again)
I think that's way too much for Kevin Love. Honestly, I think Chriss and the Milwaukee pick is plenty. I'd be tempted to give up a little more if they threw in Nance.
I would love to leave it at one pick, but If our own pick is lottery protected, we are sending two 1st in the late teens, an unproven and volatile young man, and Warren for an All Star. And the Cavs would let KLove go, only because they already have Nance. No way they send them both.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:51 am
by carey
https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1012751137127010305
Reed's guarantee pushed back until after Summer League. Interesting.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:26 am
by Shabazz
carey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:51 am
https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1012751137127010305
Reed's guarantee pushed back until after Summer League. Interesting.
Using Summer League to see if he still runs like my grandpa.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:50 am
by O_Gardino
Shabazz wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:26 am
carey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:51 am
https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1012751137127010305
Reed's guarantee pushed back until after Summer League. Interesting.
Using Summer League to see if he still runs like my grandpa.
And, as someone said about Ulis, it wakes his expiring contract tradeable.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:10 pm
by Mori Chu
I have never seen much in Reed. I know some here are big fans of his, but I have always liked Daniels much more as a bench SG.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:32 pm
by carey
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:50 am
And, as someone said about Ulis, it wakes his expiring contract tradeable.
How?
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:36 pm
by Indy
carey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:32 pm
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:50 am
And, as someone said about Ulis, it wakes his expiring contract tradeable.
How?
I think he meant expiring next summer. So if we need some $$ to make a trade work out right under the cap, we can exercise his option then trade him.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:39 pm
by O_Gardino
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:36 pm
carey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:32 pm
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:50 am
And, as someone said about Ulis, it wakes his expiring contract tradeable.
How?
I think he meant expiring next summer. So if we need some $$ to make a trade work out right under the cap, we can exercise his option then trade him.
I didn't mean expiring, I mean guaranteed. Like, we could use him as salary filler in a trade then the other team could cut him and save some $.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:48 pm
by Indy
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:39 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:36 pm
carey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:32 pm
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:50 am
And, as someone said about Ulis, it wakes his expiring contract tradeable.
How?
I think he meant expiring next summer. So if we need some $$ to make a trade work out right under the cap, we can exercise his option then trade him.
I didn't mean expiring, I mean guaranteed. Like, we could use him as salary filler in a trade then the other team could cut him and save some $.
So then you meant unguaranteed.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:07 pm
by O_Gardino
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:48 pm
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:39 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:36 pm
carey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:32 pm
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:50 am
And, as someone said about Ulis, it wakes his expiring contract tradeable.
How?
I think he meant expiring next summer. So if we need some $$ to make a trade work out right under the cap, we can exercise his option then trade him.
I didn't mean expiring, I mean guaranteed. Like, we could use him as salary filler in a trade then the other team could cut him and save some $.
So then you meant unguaranteed.
This is what I get for teasing Marty in the other thread.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:44 pm
by Mori Chu
I AM REDEEMED
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:47 pm
by ShelC
Obviously Reed's expendable with Bridges here so I'm not that upset, but I do like his game and what I saw in limited opportunities. Sucks that it was a lost season for him in his rookie year.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:15 pm
by Superbone
What do we get for redeeming you?
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:17 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:47 pm
Obviously Reed's expendable with Bridges here so I'm not that upset, but I do like his game and what I saw in limited opportunities. Sucks that it was a lost season for him in his rookie year.
He never looked as good as he did in 2017 summer league action again. I hope it was due to injury and he can become that player again. At the time, I got flashes of "Sweet D" Walter Davis. Never saw that during the regular season after returning from injury.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:30 pm
by JeremyG
Gambo is going crazy over VanVleet on the air today. He's even trying to recruit him on Twitter.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:39 pm
by Mori Chu
It has not been a great offseason for Gambo. Almost all of his predictions and "insider" "source" reports have been completely wrong. It seems like he's just another local media guy wanting to fool people into thinking he has inside sources and gossip when he actually doesn't.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:40 pm
by In2ition
JeremyG wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:30 pm
Gambo is going crazy over VanVleet on the air today. He's even trying to recruit him on Twitter.
He has a serious crush on the guy. It's a little weird to me, what am I missing in regards to FVV?
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:43 pm
by JeremyG
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:39 pm
It has not been a great offseason for Gambo. Almost all of his predictions and "insider" "source" reports have been completely wrong. It seems like he's just another local media guy wanting to fool people into thinking he has inside sources and gossip when he actually doesn't.
I think his track record is good enough to say he does have Suns sources. As far as the draft, he misread a text from the Suns about trading with the Clippers (embarrassing mistake), and McDonough did make it sound like they were going to pick DiVencenzo until the 76ers offered Bridges. I'll admit he was wrong about the Suns only trading up for Porter or Trae Young though.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:46 pm
by JeremyG
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:40 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:30 pm
Gambo is going crazy over VanVleet on the air today. He's even trying to recruit him on Twitter.
He has a serious crush on the guy. It's a little weird to me, what am I missing in regards to FVV?
I guess he sees it like another Eric Bledsoe situation, where FVV is ready to blow up. Bledsoe was a backup on the Clippers until he came to the Suns and became a starter.
Bledsoe (2012-13): 20.4 mpg, 8.5 ppg, 3.1 apg, 3.0 rpg.
VanVleet (2017-18): 20.0 mpg, 8.6 ppg, 3.2 apg, 2.4 rpg.
Similar shooting percentages also.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:05 pm
by carey
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:40 pm
It's a little weird to me, what am I missing in regards to FVV?
I don't watch a lot of Raptors but I'll say that he seems like a guy that can defend his position, shoot the 3 and pass while maintaining a good assist:turnover ratio.