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Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:40 am
by Indy
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:56 pm
I know it's a joke (kind of), but you're right.
I'll give it 3.5 dunkers out of 9. Booker, Bridges, Cam and half a point to Ayton.
half a point to Ayton is generous.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:22 am
by Mori Chu
I loved PJ Tucker, but I don't know how much gas he has left in the tank. He's 35 years old and has played multiple seasons for Mike D, aging him at twice the usual rate. Not sure he's worth giving up our pick for a worse pick. Also, why would another team trade for Frank the Tank?
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:24 am
by ShelC
I have no interest in PJ.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:47 am
by Split T
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:22 am
I loved PJ Tucker, but I don't know how much gas he has left in the tank. He's 35 years old and has played multiple seasons for Mike D, aging him at twice the usual rate. Not sure he's worth giving up our pick for a worse pick. Also, why would another team trade for Frank the Tank?
He’s on an expiring contract. He was still a good player last year. Maybe he drops off this year, but we just let him expire and all it cost was some money from Sarver.
Houston would be trading for the pick, not Frank. Frank is there for salary purposes. Houston would actually save money and move up 6 spots.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:51 am
by ShelC
Even if he's an expiring deal, you don't want to get too old too fast. And it's not like he's adding so much to the team that we can't find with better size and athleticism in the draft or FA.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:59 am
by carey
PJ still defends his ass off. Watching him in transition always frustrates me but I think now he just gives it up then runs to the corner. We could do worse. I think James Jones is already committed to Saric playing like this small ball 5 at times. I can’t wait to find out who our FA signing will be.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:30 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:51 am
Even if he's an expiring deal, you don't want to get too old too fast. And it's not like he's adding so much to the team that we can't find with better size and athleticism in the draft or FA.
I don’t think you’re finding a better player than Tucker this year in the draft.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:30 am
by Split T
carey wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:59 am
PJ still defends his ass off. Watching him in transition always frustrates me but I think now he just gives it up then runs to the corner. We could do worse. I think James Jones is already committed to Saric playing like this small ball 5 at times. I can’t wait to find out who our FA signing will be.
At this point, I’m going to be surprised if it’s not Gallo
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 am
by Wormwood
we only have the $9m MLE. Gallo would be playing at a steep discount.
Still, Gallo puts up damned good RPM. WAY better than Saric. Milsap has Kurt Thomas game and would be a very good fit next to Ayton as a defensive stretch 4.
CP3, Booker, Bridges, Milsap, Ayton is a far above average defensive unit, with three scorers and 5 guys who can hit the three (i.e. nightmare to draw up a defensive scheme against this)
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:01 am
by Ring_Wanted
Millsap would be a terrific addition. Despite age, I know I'd rather have him than Saric and even Gallo.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:03 am
by specialsauce
Millsap was not good in the bubble. I thought he played awful. Would much rather have a younger, more versatile player next to DA
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:11 am
by Mori Chu
specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:03 am
Millsap was not good in the bubble. I thought he played awful. Would much rather have a younger, more versatile player next to DA
I can see it now. Millsap shows up, starts wearing high fashion, starts saying he's the legacy to "Valley Boyz," starts doing push-ups after every made basket, ...
Sauce: *breaks keyboard in half*
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:28 am
by Split T
Wormwood wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 am
we only have the $9m MLE. Gallo would be playing at a steep discount.
Still, Gallo puts up damned good RPM. WAY better than Saric. Milsap has Kurt Thomas game and would be a very good fit next to Ayton as a defensive stretch 4.
CP3, Booker, Bridges, Milsap, Ayton is a far above average defensive unit, with three scorers and 5 guys who can hit the three (i.e. nightmare to draw up a defensive scheme against this)
Gallo said earlier he was less concerned with money and more about fit/situation. He may want more than MLE, but not sure where he’s getting it.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:42 am
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:03 am
Millsap was not good in the bubble. I thought he played awful. Would much rather have a younger, more versatile player next to DA
That's not totally true. He almost single-handedly brought Denver back in a game that they won.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:01 am
by LazarusLong
If Rockets are having a fire sale, wonder what it would take to get Daneul House...
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:38 am
by Split T
Also said in comments that we’re not getting Grant, Gallo, or Bertans. And said he doubts PJ in a trade back.
Didn’t take trading back, trading out, or just picking at 10 off the table.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:47 am
by carey
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:42 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:03 am
Millsap was not good in the bubble. I thought he played awful. Would much rather have a younger, more versatile player next to DA
That's not totally true. He almost single-handedly brought Denver back in a game that they won.
I must have missed that one because I remember being a bit shocked at how slow and rough Millsap looked.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:49 am
by carey
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:38 am
Also said in comments that we’re not getting Grant, Gallo, or Bertans. And said he doubts PJ in a trade back.
Didn’t take trading back, trading out, or just picking at 10 off the table.
Then what does he see us doing with the MLE? Surely we do more than just keep Saric.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:56 am
by Split T
carey wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:49 am
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:38 am
Also said in comments that we’re not getting Grant, Gallo, or Bertans. And said he doubts PJ in a trade back.
Didn’t take trading back, trading out, or just picking at 10 off the table.
Then what does he see us doing with the MLE? Surely we do more than just keep Saric.
He didn’t say
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:57 am
by Indy
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:56 am
carey wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:49 am
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:38 am
...
Also said in comments that we’re not getting Grant, Gallo, or Bertans. And said he doubts PJ in a trade back.
Didn’t take trading back, trading out, or just picking at 10 off the table.
Then what does he see us doing with the MLE? Surely we do more than just keep Saric.
He didn’t say
None of that seems to fit the narrative that other people are talking about with CP3 brining another player with him...