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Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:31 pm
by carey
Not a good week last week. Maybe they can get some practices in this week since they only play twice.

Last Week's Games

@ Washington L106-101
@ Orlando W92-87
vs. Minnesota L98-85
vs. Denver L120-114

This Week's Games

Wed, November 30th vs. Atlanta 9:00PM EST
Sat, December 3rd @ Golden State 10:30PM EST

Suns Stories

Center of the Sun - More Suns trade rumors than wins this week: http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2016/ ... -past-week

The benching for a T is back. Suns Coach learning tough lessons: http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2016/ ... gh-lessons

Suns rookie Marquese Chriss accepts lesson, T: http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... t/94528012

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:35 pm
by Superbone
Good stuff in both theads, carey. Thanks!

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:39 pm
by Nodack
I am a little surprised Chriss was put into the starting rotation right off the bat. He has been a little bit like a deer in the headlights. Just rookie stuff. I am ok with it because we arent going anywhere anyway but, if he is starting why so much less Bender and Ulis love? I hope his early struggles don't destroy his confidence. He looked a little frazzled the last game. Sink or swim I guess.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:19 pm
by Superbone
Here's a Forbes article I found on the Suns when reading one of the Bright Side articles:

30 Teams In 30 Days: How the Phoenix Suns Can Shine Bright Again: http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbenjami ... 2737b029bf

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:05 pm
by Mori Chu
Thanks as always for the weekly threads, carey! You da real MVP, as usual.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:12 pm
by carey
No problem. Just wish we were playing a little better. Or ya know... do something in the front office.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:25 am
by carey
https://twitter.com/PaolaBoivin/status/803620772287692800

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:53 am
by Mori Chu
Good for him. Doesn't really mean anything, though. He's still losing and isn't raising this roster to be more than the sum of its flawed parts. A "rah-rah" coach isn't what this team needs.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:15 am
by djy2j
Not sure if this belongs here or the "around the league" thread but it's a quote from John Wall about Bledsoe's pitch for he and Cousins to come to PHX.

"And how does Wall react when Cousins pitches Sacramento?

“[Wall] wants me [in D.C.],” Cousins said. “Eric want us in Phoenix.

“Play with John and Eric again,” Cousins contemplated, “you never know what will happen. It’s the NBA, so hopefully one day he’ll be in a Sacramento uniform.”


I would LOVE to see them play together...just not in PHX.

A team of Wall, Bledsoe, and Cousins is cringe worthy. So much talent there but none of them have ever been able to make it translate into wins.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:42 pm
by JCSunsfan
The way to play this is to trade Bledsoe to Washington. That gives Washington the inside edge in going after Cousins, so maybe they give a little more for him. Maybe Otto Porter and a pick? Then the Suns can draft a pg in this pg heavy draft.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:21 pm
by Shabazz

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:38 pm
by Mori Chu
djy2j wrote:Not sure if this belongs here or the "around the league" thread but it's a quote from John Wall about Bledsoe's pitch for he and Cousins to come to PHX.

"And how does Wall react when Cousins pitches Sacramento?

“[Wall] wants me [in D.C.],” Cousins said. “Eric want us in Phoenix.

“Play with John and Eric again,” Cousins contemplated, “you never know what will happen. It’s the NBA, so hopefully one day he’ll be in a Sacramento uniform.”


I would LOVE to see them play together...just not in PHX.

A team of Wall, Bledsoe, and Cousins is cringe worthy. So much talent there but none of them have ever been able to make it translate into wins.
That trio example illustrates the core flaw with Bledsoe. He's not a good enough shooter to be a full-time SG in 2016, but he isn't a pure enough distributor to be a full-time PG for a top team either. Wall is great as your PG and Cousins is great as your big man, but next to those two you want a pure shooter (dare I say, a Bradley Beal?) and not a tweener guard like Bledsoe.

Re: RE: Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:54 pm
by carey
I hate to admit it because I'm no fan of Len but he is right. You have to know by May if this dude can be a real starting C & if not what you're going to do with him.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:26 am
by djy2j
The Chandler signing is a huge backfire. I'm not sure why we HAD to sign him before we knew Alrdridge was committing but whatever. Now he's blocking Len. I know Chandler is a solid locker room veteran but I really don't see his purpose here. Williams should be backing up Len. We shouldn't have a 70 mil 3rd string C in Chandler so we are pretending he's a starter still I guess. I used to be sour on Williams but he shows potential for a back up.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:01 am
by O_Gardino
Not news, but if you need a little encouragement, here's another YouTuber who thinks Book is a good player. The series is called Attention to detail, and might be intended for coaching sessions. He breaks down why Booker is a good scorer.


Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:53 pm
by INFORMER
I'd move Bledsoe/Chriss/Tucker/Jenkins to Orlando for Nikola Vucevic, Elfrid Payton, Aaron Gordon and Jodie Meeks.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:25 pm
by In2ition
INFORMER wrote:I'd move Bledsoe/Chriss/Tucker/Jenkins to Orlando for Nikola Vucevic, Elfrid Payton, Aaron Gordon and Jodie Meeks.
I'm down with that trade.

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:22 am
by SDC
INFORMER wrote:I'd move Bledsoe/Chriss/Tucker/Jenkins to Orlando for Nikola Vucevic, Elfrid Payton, Aaron Gordon and Jodie Meeks.
explain yourself

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:35 am
by Mori Chu
What do we think of Chriss so far? His stats: 6.0 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 43.3% FG, 29.6% 3PT, 57% FT (oof) in 15 minutes.

I don't think he's a bust or a bad player, but a lot of times he seems like he's just kind of out there. Doesn't make a giant impact on the game. But I know he's a rookie and needs time and minutes.

http://www.nba.com/players/marquese/chriss/1627737

Re: Suns News: Week 6 11/28-12/4

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:38 am
by O_Gardino
Well, we don't run plays for Chriss, so there's no telling what he could do. But my perception is that he plays basketball like he's playing football.

Every once in a while, Chriss executes a play on offense or defense very very well, and I think WOW. But overall, he doesn't transition between plays quickly. After each play, he stands up straight and looks around to think about what is going to happen next. It's like he is still expecting a team huddle after every shot attempt. So he gets caught off guard and reacting too late very often.