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Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:44 am
by carey
Nationally televised games this week

Monday: Denver @ Philly 7:00 PM EST NBATv, Boston @ Phoenix 10:00 PM EST NBATv
Tuesday: Cleveland @ Miami 8:00 PM EST TNT, Milwaukee @ Cleveland 10:30 PM EST TNT
Wednesday: Cleveland @ Charlotte 7:00 PM EST NBATv, Boston @ Utah 9:30 PM EST ESPN
Thursday: OKC @ San Antonio 8:00 PM EST TNT, Milwaukee @ Golden State 10:30 PM EST TNT
Friday: New Orleans @ Cleveland 8:00 PM EST ESPN, L.A. Clippers @ Portland 10:30 PM EST ESPN
Saturday: Charlotte @ Washington 3:00 PM EST NBATv, Toronto @ Boston 7:30 PM EST NBATv
Sunday: Philadelphia @ Charlotte 1:00 PM EST NBATv, Houston @ San Antonio 3:30 PM EST ABC, OKC @ New Orleans 6:00 PM EST NBATv, Sacramento @ L.A. Lakers 9:30 PM EST NBATv

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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:06 pm
by Shabazz
carey wrote:Rudy Gobert’s enormous value, explained by stats and the Jazz themselves - https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/23/ ... f-the-year
CC @SpecialSauce

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:20 pm
by specialsauce
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:Rudy Gobert’s enormous value, explained by stats and the Jazz themselves - https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/23/ ... f-the-year
CC @SpecialSauce
I’m not impressed. They’re going to go nowhere in the playoffs, I will bet anything. They will lose to the Warriors, Thunder, or Rockets. In years past I’d include the Spurs but they’re just too banged up this year.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:55 pm
by In2ition
specialsauce wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:Rudy Gobert’s enormous value, explained by stats and the Jazz themselves - https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/23/ ... f-the-year
CC @SpecialSauce
I’m not impressed. They’re going to go nowhere in the playoffs, I will bet anything. They will lose to the Warriors, Thunder, or Rockets. In years past I’d include the Spurs but they’re just too banged up this year.
They certainly would have been in better shape if Exum didn't get hurt and they didn't lose Hayward in FA.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:01 pm
by specialsauce
In2ition wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:Rudy Gobert’s enormous value, explained by stats and the Jazz themselves - https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/23/ ... f-the-year
CC @SpecialSauce
I’m not impressed. They’re going to go nowhere in the playoffs, I will bet anything. They will lose to the Warriors, Thunder, or Rockets. In years past I’d include the Spurs but they’re just too banged up this year.
They certainly would have been in better shape if Exum didn't get hurt and they didn't lose Hayward in FA.
I don’t think Exum is a factor at all in where they finish.

Hayward and Mitchell together would have been special though.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:07 pm
by In2ition
specialsauce wrote:
In2ition wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:Rudy Gobert’s enormous value, explained by stats and the Jazz themselves - https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/23/ ... f-the-year
CC @SpecialSauce
I’m not impressed. They’re going to go nowhere in the playoffs, I will bet anything. They will lose to the Warriors, Thunder, or Rockets. In years past I’d include the Spurs but they’re just too banged up this year.
They certainly would have been in better shape if Exum didn't get hurt and they didn't lose Hayward in FA.
I don’t think Exum is a factor at all in where they finish.

Hayward and Mitchell together would have been special though.
After seeing Exum this summer, I believe that he was on the verge of finally having a breakout year.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:17 pm
by Split T
So Fultz is back and he looked pretty good. 10 points 8 assists, 4 boards in 14 minutes tonight. Philly is going to be scary

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:02 pm
by carey
Split T wrote:So Fultz is back and he looked pretty good. 10 points 8 assists, 4 boards in 14 minutes tonight. Philly is going to be scary
I watched it. He didn't look all that good to me. Airballed his first jumper and was only 4-13 from the field. He did have a few decent passes including a nice around the back pass to Embiid.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:14 pm
by Split T
5/13. I only saw clips, but compared to what he looked like at the beginning of the season, he looks good.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:36 am
by bajanguy008
Yea he was inefficient but he was playing a 100mph and pressing which isn't a surprise for someone who was sitting out so long
I think the biggest take away isn't the stat line but just the fact he wasn't tentative. For a moment there I was wondering if he would be a mess mentally when returning more than anything else with how long this shooting issue dragged on.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:37 am
by bajanguy008
Oh and the Nuggets can't seem to win without Gary Harris or the Jokic/Millsap pair hasn't clicked
One or Both of these things are correct because they haven't been playing consistent recently

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:21 am
by O_Gardino
bajanguy008 wrote:Yea he was inefficient but he was playing a 100mph and pressing which isn't a surprise for someone who was sitting out so long
I think the biggest take away isn't the stat line but just the fact he wasn't tentative. For a moment there I was wondering if he would be a mess mentally when returning more than anything else with how long this shooting issue dragged on.
Really solid take.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:55 am
by TOO
specialsauce wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:Rudy Gobert’s enormous value, explained by stats and the Jazz themselves - https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/23/ ... f-the-year
CC @SpecialSauce
I’m not impressed. They’re going to go nowhere in the playoffs, I will bet anything. They will lose to the Warriors, Thunder, or Rockets. In years past I’d include the Spurs but they’re just too banged up this year.
Really going out on a limb there saying the Jazz would lose to teams loaded with all-stars. :lol:

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:04 pm
by specialsauce
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:Rudy Gobert’s enormous value, explained by stats and the Jazz themselves - https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/23/ ... f-the-year
CC @SpecialSauce
I’m not impressed. They’re going to go nowhere in the playoffs, I will bet anything. They will lose to the Warriors, Thunder, or Rockets. In years past I’d include the Spurs but they’re just too banged up this year.
Really going out on a limb there saying the Jazz would lose to teams loaded with all-stars. :lol:
So you love Gobert enough to build a team around him but then make excuses for him against actually talented teams?

Rockets are not loaded with all-stars. Neither are the Thunder. Melo is not playing at an all-star level any more.

Rockets have Harden and CP3. Thunder have Westbrook and PG. Jazz have Mitchell and Gobert.

Yes, I'll give you the Warriors are loaded with all stars. But the Jazz wouldn't stand a chance even with Curry being out.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:11 pm
by TOO
specialsauce wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:Rudy Gobert’s enormous value, explained by stats and the Jazz themselves - https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/23/ ... f-the-year
CC @SpecialSauce
I’m not impressed. They’re going to go nowhere in the playoffs, I will bet anything. They will lose to the Warriors, Thunder, or Rockets. In years past I’d include the Spurs but they’re just too banged up this year.
Really going out on a limb there saying the Jazz would lose to teams loaded with all-stars. :lol:
So you love Gobert enough to build a team around him but then make excuses for him against actually talented teams?

Rockets are not loaded with all-stars. Neither are the Thunder. Melo is not playing at an all-star level any more.

Rockets have Harden and CP3. Thunder have Westbrook and PG. Jazz have Mitchell and Gobert.

Yes, I'll give you the Warriors are loaded with all stars. But the Jazz wouldn't stand a chance even with Curry being out.
Thunder had 2, Rockets had 2, Dubs had 4, the majority of the west all-star team came from those 3 teams. Let's not act like Gobert would be the reason the LESSER talented team would lose to the MORE talented team. Now you're just being silly man. Gimme a break. There isnt a C in the NBA that you swap Gobert for that makes up the talent discrepancies between the Jazz and the 3 you listed, maybe the Thunder could be overtaken because that team is poorly coached. So I am not making excuses for Gobert, facts are facts.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:13 pm
by TOO
I get it, you don't value defense, I believe I am done talking in circles with you, we're not gonna change one each others mind. Cheers.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:42 pm
by Split T
I think the jazz would beat the thunder in the playoffs and while I still think the warriors will win, I think the jazz are the last team golden State wants to play in the first round.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:16 pm
by specialsauce
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:I get it, you don't value defense, I believe I am done talking in circles with you, we're not gonna change one each others mind. Cheers.
Cheers

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:00 pm
by INFORMER
I really don't see how the Jazz being eighth seed and not being able to beat Houston or Golden State is evidence that Gobert isn't valuable. The Jazz do not have a good roster. If anything, being a playoff team in the tougher of the two conferences is a testament to Gobert's value. The dude is a stud.

Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/26-4/1

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:03 pm
by In2ition
INFORMER wrote:I really don't see how the Jazz being eighth seed and not being able to beat Houston or Golden State is evidence that Gobert isn't valuable. The Jazz do not have a good roster. If anything, being a playoff team in the tougher of the two conferences is a testament to Gobert's value. The dude is a stud.
I agree, they are so much better when he plays.