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Point Guards

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:36 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Ok...giggles...a few out of the blue ideas on PG...naturally, this also means being able to get them...tbd.

a. Pry Spencer Dinwiddie out of Brooklyn...
b. Askia Booker...pry him out of the G-League
c. Lure Josh Magette back from Croatia
d. This one is tough..pry Quinn Cook out of the Warriors..partly because he might not appreciate that...lol.

Just some food for thought...
VT

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:06 pm
by SDC
i'd give jimmer fredette a shot. i'd give up the milwaukee pick for teodosic or lin.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:13 pm
by SDC
best case scenario: getting both lin and teodosic

bestest case: lin, milos, and jimmer.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:42 am
by wpmiller42
TJ McConnell or Malcolm Brogdon would be great, but I wouldn't trade much to get either of them. I think they'll both be UFA next year if I'm not mistaken?

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:50 am
by INFORMER
Yes, they are.

Delon Wright's is currently trying to work with Toronto's front office to come to terms on an extension. If that doesn't materialize, I would think we could send the Milwaukee pick (and maybe a protected second rounder) to Toronto for him, using the disable player exception.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:01 am
by O_Gardino
wpmiller42 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:42 am
TJ McConnell or Malcolm Brogdon would be great, but I wouldn't trade much to get either of them. I think they'll both be UFA next year if I'm not mistaken?
I'd give up a pick for either, if they were open to resigning.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:56 am
by wpmiller42
O_Gardino wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:01 am
wpmiller42 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:42 am
TJ McConnell or Malcolm Brogdon would be great, but I wouldn't trade much to get either of them. I think they'll both be UFA next year if I'm not mistaken?
I'd give up a pick for either, if they were open to resigning.
Yeah, as much as I like both, I think I would only give up a heavily protected 1st rounder. I think 2 second rounders is fair. But I would make a heavy run at both next year at UFAs. I think either of them make a lot of sense for this team.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:13 pm
by pickle
Why on McConnell? I know that he's a feisty player and all but he's clearly not a long term solution. For stop gap, I'd rather not spend too much in terms of assets.

I like Ty Jones and Delon Wright. I know that Terry Rozier is gonna be expensive and he's currently a horrible shooter, but I'd take a shot at him for the right price too.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:30 pm
by Cap
wpmiller42 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:42 am
TJ McConnell or Malcolm Brogdon would be great, but I wouldn't trade much to get either of them. I think they'll both be UFA next year if I'm not mistaken?
Bender for Brogdon. Milwaukee gets to trade up from 36 to 4 in the 2016 draft. Such a deal!

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:21 pm
by Drewsprocket
We need a point god. In the meantime, how about someone who will prevent the team from losing by 30 points. Someone who isn’t going to pound the ball and will do what Igor needs.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:33 pm
by Mori Chu
This point guard situation, combined with our GM turnover, just screams, "give up a 1st rounder to get a stopgap mediocre veteran PG."

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:31 pm
by virtual9mm
Jarret Jack as a starter, Crawford for the second unit, cut Shaq and Canaan and have Okobo and Melton learn.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:59 pm
by ShelC
Yes please.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:08 pm
by SDC
what?

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:24 pm
by Drewsprocket
virtual9mm wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:31 pm
Jarret Jack as a starter, Crawford for the second unit, cut Shaq and Canaan and have Okobo and Melton learn.
+1

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:51 pm
by Cap
I can’t believe we’re talking about Jamal Crawford and Jarrett Jack.

Seriously, I didn’t know those guys were still playing.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:23 pm
by Shabazz
Gross.

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:47 am
by virtual9mm
The question is how to get serviceable PGs to hold down the fort enough so that the development of Ayton, Jackson, and even Booker are not impeded. Jack is a consummate pro who is known as the kind of floor general that Koko wants. Crawford has his warts but is fantastic on the pick and roll with a dominant big man. No more questions regarding getting Ayton the ball.

And both Crawford and Jack were effective last year. The hope is that they will provide enough stability so that Melton or Okobo can emerge.

https://thunderousintentions.com/2018/0 ... r-veteran/

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:48 am
by virtual9mm
And the key is to avoid being held up for assets in a trade...

Re: Point Guards

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:52 am
by ShelC
Jack played well for the Knicks last year and if we're running a motion offense, he's a guy who can run the offense and hit shots off curls. Same with Crawford. We're not asking them to run PnRs 90% of the time. And unfortunately, Harrison can't shoot, Okobo and Melton aren't ready, and Canaan is essentially a 3rd stringer.

The other thing we're missing on the perimeter is someone who can create their own shot and breakdown a defense. That's why teams could overplay on the perimeter in the preseason. Booker will help solve that problem but when he's not the game, that's something JCraw can be a threat with. Otherwise, we're just passing around the perimeter and being suffocated on D because no one can get by their man.