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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:58 pm

Dunno if this is the perfect thread to put this in, but I didn't think it quite deserved its own thread. A Trump supporter at his rally attacks a BBC cameraman. The President's hateful violence-inducing rhetoric against the free press strikes again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47219957

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Nodack » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:55 am

Trump - The Media, US Government, FBI, DOJ, IRS, Intelligence Community, Democrats, Minorities are the enemy of the people. His game plan seems simple enough. Make his people distrust everybody but himself.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Nodack » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:46 am

Trump made this staement today.

“I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.”

Trump seems to be threatening violence on the left with the military, police and bikers on the same day right wingers white supremacists murdered 49 in New Zeeland. The am developing a real hate for this man. He is evil.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by In2ition » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:46 am

My dearest sympathies go out to the victims and families of this horrible senseless act of hate.
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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:58 am

I'm so crushed by this mosque shooting. 49 dead, 20 or more injured. They live streamed the whole thing; you can WATCH them doing this. (Do yourself a favor and do not watch it.)

They were white nationalists who hung out on web sites like 4chan/8chan devoted to white supremacy.

They wrote a manifesto explaining why they did what they did. In it, they openly praise Donald Trump. They call him, "a symbol of renewed white identity". Great.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/ ... 43150.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-47578860

If you don't think that this President, his administration, and his party help to incite this kind of violence, you aren't paying attention. Banning Muslims from traveling to the US three different times, along with his countless words speaking out against Muslims, do matter. Extremists are listening, and they're learning.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Nodack » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:45 pm

Three acts of domestic terrorism in one week.

Today
https://newsone.com/3883517/el-paso-sho ... k-crusius/
El Paso Shooter Identified Online As Trump Supporter Who Didn’t Like ‘Race Mixing’
Patrick Crusius allegedly left behind a racist manifesto before killing at least 20 people at Cielo Vista Mall.

This 21 year old was a Trump fan who hated Mexicans. He hated the mixing of races. A total racist. He was a fan of Trump and that shooter in the Netherlands guy...and he was an environmentalist and anti corporation guy according to his “manifesto”, which is the opposite in most circles and confusing. He used an AK-47 type gun.

It seems pretty obvious to me this guy was inspired by Trump to murder those people. I’m sure Trump fans will disagree.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Superbone » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:34 pm

Ho hum. Another mass shooting. But are we doing to do anything about it? Nah.
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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Cap » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:55 pm

Superbone wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:34 pm
But are we doing to do anything about it? Nah.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims.


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Post by da_suns_fan » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:59 pm

Trump sent a "thoughts and prayers" tweet and followed it up 17 minutes later with a tweet praising an MMA fighter.

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Post by Nodack » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:03 pm

Ya, he seems real broken up about it.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Nodack » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:59 pm

The shooters Manifesto if you want to call it that
https://drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm

WALMART SHOOTER MANIFESTO
Sat Aug 03 2019 22:31:51 ET

The Inconvenient Truth
About Me
In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and
his manifesto. This attack is a response to the
Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigator
s, not me. I am simply defending my country from
cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an in
vasion. Some people will think this statement is
hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic
and cultural destruction brought to the Native
Americans by our European ancestors, but this just
reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the
invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s lef
t is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this
attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispan
ic community was not my target before I read The
Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the po
litical and economic reasons behind the attack, my
gear, my expectations of what response this will ge
nerate and my personal motivations and thoughts.
Political Reasons
In short, America is rotting from the inside out,
and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly
impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our lead
ers, both Democrat AND Republican, have been
failing us for decades. They are either complacent
or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the
American public in our history. The takeover of the
United States government by unchecked
corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all
the damage these corporations have caused, but here
is what is important. Due to the death of the baby
boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of
the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The
Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by
pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate. They intend to use open
borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship
and more to enact a political coup by importing and then
legalizing millions of new voters. With policies li
ke these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely
become nearly unanimous in the future. The heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a
Democrat stronghold. Losing Texas and a few other states with heavy Hispanic population to the
Democrats is all it would take for them to win near
ly every presidential election. Although the
Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Pro-
corporation = pro-immigration. But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize
corporations over our future. So the Democrats are
nearly unanimous with their support of immigration
while the Republicans are divided over it. At least
with Republicans, the process of mass immigration
and citizenship can be greatly reduced.
Economic Reasons
In short, immigration can only be detrimental to the future of America. Continued immigration will
make one of the biggest issues of our time, automation, so much worse. Some sources say that in under
two decades, half of American jobs will be lost to
it. Of course some people will be retrained, but most
will not. So it makes no sense to keep on letting
millions of illegal or legal immigrants flood into the
United States, and to keep the tens of millions that are already here. Invaders who also have close to
the highest birthrate of all ethnicities in America. In
the near future, America will have to initiate a basic
universal income to prevent widespread poverty and
civil unrest as people lose their jobs. Joblessness in
itself is a source of civil unrest. The less depend
ents on a government welfare system, the better. The
lower the unemployment rate, the better. Achieving
ambitions social projects like universal healthcare
and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if
tens of millions of dependents are removed.
Even though new migrants do the dirty work, their kids typically don’t. They want to live the American
Dream which is why they get college degrees and fill higher-paying skilled positions. This is why
corporations lobby for even more illegal immigration even after decades of it of happening. They need
to keep replenishing the low-skilled labor pool. Even as migrant children flood skilled jobs, Corporat
ions make this worse by lobbying for even more work visa
s to be issued for skilled foreign workers to come
here. Recently, the senate under a REPUBLICAN administration has greatly increased the number of
foreign workers that will take American jobs. Remember that both Democrats and Republicans support
immigration and work visas. Corporations need to keep replenishing the labor pool for both skilled and
unskilled jobs to keep wages down. So Automation is
a good thing as it will eliminate the need for new
migrants to fill unskilled jobs. Jobs that American
s can’t survive on anyway. Automation can and would
replace millions of low-skilled jobs if immigrants
were deported. This source of competition for skilled
labor from immigrants and visa holders around the world has made a very difficult situation even worse
for natives as they compete in the skilled job mark
et. To compete, people have to get better credentials
by spending more time in college. It used to be tha
t a high school degree was worth something. Now a
bachelor’s degree is what’s recommended to be competitive in the job market. The cost of college
degrees has exploded as their value has plummeted.
This has led to a generation of indebted,
overqualified students filling menial, low paying and unfulfilling jobs. Of course these migrants and
their children have contributed to the problem, but are n
ot the sole cause of it.
The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is
destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive
burden for future generations. Corporations are heaing the destruction of our environment by
shamelessly over harvesting resources. This has been
a problem for decades. For example, this
phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades
old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the
country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming
and oil drilling operations. Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste
and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl create
s inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how
many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water of
f our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my
short life has led me to believe that the average A
merican isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if
the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The
government is unwilling to tackle these issues
beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. Corporations that also like immigration
because more people means a bigger market for their
products. I just want to say that I love the people
of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next
logical step is to decrease the number of people in
America using resources. If we can get rid of enough
people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.
Gear
Main gun: AK47 (WASR 10) – I realized pretty quickly that this isn’t a great choice since it’s the civilian
version of the ak47. It’s not designed to shoot rounds quickly, so it overheats massively after about
100 shots fired in quick succession. I’ll have to use a
heat-resistant glove to get around this.
8m3 bullet: This bullet, unlike pretty much any other 7.62x39 bullet, actually fragments like a pistol
hollow point when shot out of an ak47 at the cost o
f penetration. Penetration is still reasonable, but not
nearly as high as a normal ak47 bullet. The ak47 is
definitely a bad choice without this bullet design, and
may still be with it.
Other gun(if I get one): Ar15 – Pretty much any variation of this gun doesn’t heat up nearly as fast a
s the
AK47. The round of this gun isn’t designed to frag
ment, but instead tumbles inside a target causing
lethal wounding. This gun is probably better, but I
wanted to explore different options. The ar15 is
probably the best gun for military applications but
this isn’t a military application.
This will be a test of which is more lethal, either
it’s fragmentation or tumbling.
I didn’t spend much time at all preparing for this
attack. Maybe a month, probably less. I have do this
before I lose my nerve. I figured that an under-prepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no
attack and no manifesto
Reaction
Statistically, millions of migrants have returned t
o their home countries to reunite with the family t
hey
lost contact with when they moved to America. They
come here as economic immigrants, not for asylum
reasons. This is an encouraging sign that the Hispanic population is willing to return to their home
countries if given the right incentive. An incentive that myself and many other patriotic Americans will
provide. This will remove the threat of the Hispanic voting bloc which will make up for the loss of
millions of baby boomers. This will also make the elites that run corporations realize that it’s not i
n their interest to continue piss off Americans. Corporate
America doesn’t need to be destroyed, but just
shown that they are on the wrong side of history. That if they don’t bend, they will break.
Personal Reasons and Thoughts
My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist. The job of my dreams will
likely be automated. Hispanics will take control of
the local and state government of my beloved Texas,
changing policy to better suit their needs. They will turn Texas into an instrument of a political coup
which will hasten the destruction of our country. The environment is getting worse by the year. If you
take nothing else from this document, remember this
: INACTION IS A CHOICE. I can no longer bear the
shame of inaction knowing that our founding fathers
have endowed me with the rights needed to save
our country from the brink destruction. Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to
repel the millions of invaders that plaque their country. They have no choice but to sit by and watch
their countries burn.
America can only be destroyed from the inside-out.
If our country falls, it will be the fault of trait
ors. This
is why I see my actions as faultless. Because this
isn’t an act of imperialism but an act of preservation.
America is full of hypocrites who will blast my act
ions as the sole result of racism and hatred of other
countries, despite the extensive evidence of all the problems these invaders cause and will cause.
People who are hypocrites because they support imperialistic wars that have caused the loss of tens of
thousands of American lives and untold numbers of civilian lives. The argument that mass murder is
okay when it is state sanctioned is absurd. Our government has killed a whole lot more people for a
whole lot less. Even if other non-immigrant targets would have a greater impact, I can’t bring myself to kill my fellow
Americans. Even the Americans that seem hell-bent on destroying our country. Even if they are
shameless race mixers, massive polluters, haters of
our collective values, etc. One day they will see error
of their ways. Either when American patriots fail to reform our country and it collapses or when we save
it. But they will see the error of their ways. I promise y’all that.
I am against race mixing because it destroys genetic diversity and creates identity problems. Also
because it’s completely unnecessary and selfish. 2nd and 3rd
generation Hispanics form interracial unions
at much higher rates than average. Yet another reason to send them back. Cultural and racial diversity
is largely temporary. Cultural diversity diminishes as
stronger and/or more appealing cultures overtake
weaker and/or undesirable ones. Racial diversity will disappear as either race mixing or genocide will
take place. But the idea of deporting or murdering
all non-white Americans is horrific. Many have been
here at least as long as the whites, and have done
as much to build our country. The best solution to
this for now would be to divide America into a confederacy of territories with at least 1 territory for each
race. This physical separation would nearly eliminate race mixing and improve social unity by granting
each race self-determination within their respective territory(s).
My death is likely inevitable. If I’m not killed by
the police, then I’ll probably be gunned down by one of
the invaders. Capture in this case if far worse than dying during the shooting because I’ll get the death
penalty anyway. Worse still is that I would live knowing that my family despises me. This is why I’m not
going to surrender even if I run out of ammo. If I’
m captured, it will be because I was subdued somehow.
Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfll
your super soldier COD fantasy. Attack low security
targets. Even though you might out gun a security
guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor,
training and numbers. Do not throw away your life
on an unnecessarily dangerous target. If a target seems too hot, live to fight another day.
My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest
predate Trump and his campaign for president. I put
ting this here because some people will blame the
President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media
will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous
for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that.
Many people think that the fight for America is already lost. They couldn’t be more wrong. This is just
the beginning of the fight for America and Europe.
I am honored to head the fight to reclaim my country
from destruction.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Nodack » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:27 pm

I just read it. Wow! He almost sounds like a Democrat because he wants to save the environment. He speaks of automation replacing humans as I have been doing and talks about corporations running America and destroying it. So far he sounds like a Lib.

His answer for there being less jobs in the future is to kill Mexicans because they will be competing for fewer American jobs. He decided killing everyone would bad and decided that we should make two countries, one with white people and one with everybody else. He made it sound as if he didn’t want to be called a white supremacist and yet all his speech about race make him sound like a white supremacist.

He also mentioned that he thought Liberals would blame Trump or other candidates and he didn’t want that and then complained about the fake media and talks about sending them back to where they came from.

This guy was a messed up. He sounds like a Demopublican.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:46 pm

The blood of the dead in El Paso is on all Trump supporters', and all Republicans', hands. They give them the guns, the hatred, the fear, and the racist rhetoric. All the shooter has to do is pull the trigger.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Nodack » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:05 am

Another one on the same day!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayto ... index.html
9 dead, 16 injured in a shooting in Dayton, Ohio

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Post by SunsRIt » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:25 am

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:46 pm
The blood of the dead in El Paso is on all Trump supporters', and all Republicans', hands. They give them the guns, the hatred, the fear, and the racist rhetoric. All the shooter has to do is pull the trigger.
Go to hell Marty. For you to make an asinine, blanket statement like that is ridiculous. There is just as much, if not more hatred on the left(see Antifa, et al). There have been people beaten in this country for simply wearing a hat someone doesn't like(MAGA). You claim the left is tolerant and respectful of everyone, but you have just shown, once again, that you are far from it. Just because I, and millions of other Americans support Trump, does not mean I am responsible for the death of people at the hands of some deranged kid. The racist rhetoric started long before Trump was in office and will continue long after he leaves. And I am nowhere near racist.

I expect an apology, not an attack from you now.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:46 am

No apology coming. Your Trump stokes racist hatred with his words and deeds every day. And your GOP keeps the laws in place to put assault weapons in so many hands. You're all to blame. You can go apologize to the relatives of all the dead in El Paso and Dayton for voting for a bigot fascist for President and encouraging the murders. Then we can talk.

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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:47 am

If you feel like educating yourself about Trump's (and your) complicity, start here:

https://theintercept.com/2019/08/04/el- ... ald-trump/

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Post by Superbone » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:55 am

Nodack wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:05 am
Another one on the same day!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayto ... index.html
9 dead, 16 injured in a shooting in Dayton, Ohio
9 dead in less than a minute. Everybody should have a gun like that.
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Post by Superbone » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:57 am

34 killed this week overall.
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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Post by Superbone » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:10 am

Come on guys, let's not blame each other. I'd like to think that none of us Suns fans here are killers or pro gun violence or endorse these actions in any way.

I do blame the government for not taking action due to the power of the NRA and I do blame Trump for fostering division and hate in America but I'm not going to put a blanket of blame on every supporter of his as that was almost half of America's voters at the time of the election. There is no way that most of those voters think that this is a good thing or actively endorse it.
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