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Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:06 pm
by carey
Nationally televised games this week
Monday: New Orleans @ Boston 7:30 PM EST
NBATv, Miami @ L.A. Lakers 9:30 PM EST
NBATv
Tuesday: Portland @ Houston 8:00 PM EST
NBATv, Toronto @ L.A. Clippers 10:30 PM EST
NBATv
Wednesday: Oklahoma City @ New Orleans 8:00 PM EST
ESPN, Toronto @ Golden State 10:30 PM EST
ESPN
Thursday: L.A. Lakers @ Houston 8:00 PM EST
TNT,
Dallas @ Phoenix 10:30 PM
TNT
Friday: Indiana @ Philadelphia 7:30 PM EST
ESPN, Oklahoma City @ Denver 10:00 PM EST
ESPN
Saturday: Utah vs. Orlando 5:00 PM EST
NBATv
Sunday: None
NBA News
I thought all this stuff from the Tom Ziller newsletter on the Bulls was interesting so I'm posting it all including clickable links.
You know the Dead Coach Bounce, where a team has a game or three after their coach is replaced of really inspired basketball? The Chicago Bulls, uh, did not experience that. Instead of bouncing to surprising heights upon firing Fred Hoiberg and replacing him with Jim Boylen, the Bulls crashed through the ground and descended straight to the fifth level of Hell.
The Bulls lost to the Celtics at home by 56 points on Saturday -- tied for the worst home loss in NBA history -- with the starters getting pulled for good in the third quarter down 22. You need to know that Boylen is a tough guy. He critiqued the Bulls' conditioning upon getting the big job, and ran the team through two long practices with heavy conditioning already this week. He declared the team would have another one on Sunday, in the wake of a thoroughly embarrassing back-to-back.
The Bulls players, my friends, were not having it. So they basically mutinied, having a team meeting on Sunday and refusing to practice, with
Zach LaVine and Justin Holiday leading the calls, per ESPN's Malika Andrews. Darnell Mayberry of The Athletic reports that
players were planning to no-show completely on Sunday in protest, but Lauri Markkanen and Robin Lopez got players to show up to the facility and have a meeting.
This is a bell you can't unring, and the only thing that makes it highly likely that Boylen lasts all season is that the Bulls front office is guilty of gross incompetence and negligence. This is not how you build a young team, folks.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:39 pm
by Indy
Well at least we aren't the laughing stock of the NBA for a couple days.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:02 pm
by ShelC
You just knew Zavine and/or Parker were the guys making the calls to not show up.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:42 pm
by carey
The last bit is confusing to me because honestly, I'm on Boylen's side here. They were out of shape and playing crap basketball. Much like the Suns. I've also thought the Suns would do better with a hard ass coach instead of Igor. I'd be pissed if I were a Bulls fans and my shitty ass team was going to no-show practice because it was hard.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:07 pm
by Cap
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:35 am
carey wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:28 am
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:26 am
Which player in the league is gettable with our current assets that would be better on our team than the current top 3 college players? Keep in mind you control draft picks for a long time.
If your question is assuming we're trading a top 3 pick? Not a single player in the league.
I should have assumed a top 5 pick to be safe, because if we finish with the worst record, we can't pick lower than 5.
I’m thinking you should have assumed a top 6 pick to be safe. We have legitimate competition for the basement.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:24 pm
by Indy
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:07 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:35 am
carey wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:28 am
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:26 am
Which player in the league is gettable with our current assets that would be better on our team than the current top 3 college players? Keep in mind you control draft picks for a long time.
If your question is assuming we're trading a top 3 pick? Not a single player in the league.
I should have assumed a top 5 pick to be safe, because if we finish with the worst record, we can't pick lower than 5.
I’m thinking you should have assumed a top 6 pick to be safe. We have legitimate competition for the basement.
That is probably true. We could go on even a little bit of a streak and end up being 5th or 6th worse in the league--that could mean we end up as low as 9 or 10. But we do have good luck picking 9th... We are basically batting a thousand there.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:30 pm
by Cap
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:24 pm
But we do have good luck picking 9th... We are basically batting a thousand there.
Not we. Jerry Colangelo.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:33 pm
by Indy
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:30 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:24 pm
But we do have good luck picking 9th... We are basically batting a thousand there.
Not we. Jerry Colangelo.
Stop bringing me down
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:44 pm
by Split T
At this point I’d be highly surprised if we finished anywhere outside the bottom 5. Can’t imagine more than 1 or 2 teams jumping us, so I’d say we are pretty locked into a top 7 pick.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:38 pm
by Shabazz
De'Aaron Fox would look so good on this team.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:57 pm
by iLLmatic
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:39 pm
Well at least we aren't the laughing stock of the NBA for a couple days.
Yeah at least the spotlights off of us for now.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:42 pm
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:38 pm
De'Aaron Fox would look so good on this team.
Yeah, that's going to haunt us for a while, I'm afraid. Was watching the Kings broadcast last night and they were saying he might be an all-star this year. I thought that was going a little far.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:55 pm
by Split T
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:42 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:38 pm
De'Aaron Fox would look so good on this team.
Yeah, that's going to haunt us for a while, I'm afraid. Was watching the Kings broadcast last night and they were saying he might be an all-star this year. I thought that was going a little far.
Probably, but it’s not crazy. There might be a few spots open this year in the west somehow.
Curry, Harden, Lillard are locks at guard
Lebron, Durant, AD are locks at forward
Jokic is a lock at C
Still got 5 spots...PG13 and Westbrook are probably in.
Towns, Gobert, Harris, Conley, Fox. Who am I missing?
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:57 pm
by The Bobster
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:55 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:42 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:38 pm
De'Aaron Fox would look so good on this team.
Yeah, that's going to haunt us for a while, I'm afraid. Was watching the Kings broadcast last night and they were saying he might be an all-star this year. I thought that was going a little far.
Probably, but it’s not crazy. There might be a few spots open this year in the west somehow.
Curry, Harden, Lillard are locks at guard
Lebron, Durant, AD are locks at forward
Jokic is a lock at C
Still got 5 spots...PG13 and Westbrook are probably in.
Towns, Gobert, Harris, Conley, Fox. Who am I missing?
Capela?
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:31 pm
by Split T
Can’t imagine Houston getting two all stars when they are out of the playoffs.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:28 pm
by Mori Chu
I think Conley and Towns probably get those spots. I don't think Fox will be rewarded by the coaches yet.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:30 pm
by Split T
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:28 pm
I think Conley and Towns probably get those spots. I don't think Fox will be rewarded by the coaches yet.
Ya, if I had to guess right now:
Curry, Harden, James, Durant, AD
Lillard, Westbrook, George, Harris, Jokic
Conley, Towns
I feel like I might be forgetting someone though.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:25 am
by Ring_Wanted
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:30 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:28 pm
I think Conley and Towns probably get those spots. I don't think Fox will be rewarded by the coaches yet.
Ya, if I had to guess right now:
Curry, Harden, James, Durant, AD
Lillard, Westbrook, George, Harris, Jokic
Conley, Towns
I feel like I might be forgetting someone though.
Draymond Green's stupid face, probably.
What if the fans vote Doncic in? Or coaches, if Dallas remains a plyoff team...
DeRozan/Aldridge if/when Pop straights that ship.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:19 am
by Split T
All possibilities. Maybe Jrue if the pelicans get rolling as well. Doncic better not make it though, he’s good but he’s not an all star.
Re: Around the League: Week 9 12/10-12/16
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:53 am
by SDC
russell westbrook is having a bad shooting year
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