Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by Drewsprocket » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:21 pm

ShelC wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:37 am
This kind of explains the move. Can't say I disagree, just a matter of how much Acy can impact things tho I'm not expecting much.

https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin/status/1081627604841611264

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by INFORMER » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:48 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if the Suns targeted Jordan Bell this offseason.
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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by TheOriginalOriginal » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:48 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if the Suns targeted Jordan Bell this offseason.
As long as they attach Quinn Cook, sign me up.
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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by carey » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:20 am

Should have drafted Bell when they had the opportunity instead of Reed.
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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by In2ition » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:45 am

carey wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:20 am
Should have drafted Bell when they had the opportunity instead of Reed.
Yeah, it wasn't like no one thought that the Suns should have drafted him either. I swear 90% of Suns twitter and phx-suns.net were begging the Suns to take Bell when he was available.
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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by INFORMER » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:27 pm

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:48 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if the Suns targeted Jordan Bell this offseason.
As long as they attach Quinn Cook, sign me up.
Really?! He has developed as a good catch and shoot shooter, but he seems to possess little ability to run the point. He basically just dribbles the ball down the court and passes to Draymond or Klay and lets them make something happen while he just stands behind the 3-point line waiting to launch a 3.
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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by ShelC » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:10 am

i get the allure of Bell but I'd rather stick with Holmes.

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:12 am

Bell is a nice player, but I bet he'll get overpaid as a free agent. Not sure that he'd be as effective outside of that system.

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Post by JCSunsfan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:46 pm

In2ition wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:45 am
carey wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:20 am
Should have drafted Bell when they had the opportunity instead of Reed.
Yeah, it wasn't like no one thought that the Suns should have drafted him either. I swear 90% of Suns twitter and phx-suns.net were begging the Suns to take Bell when he was available.
I certainly wanted him.

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by JCSunsfan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:47 pm

ShelC wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:10 am
i get the allure of Bell but I'd rather stick with Holmes.
Sure. I can support this. Stick with the players who are doing the job for you.

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Post by Flagrant Fowl » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:13 pm

I’m pretty sure McD didn’t draft Bell because he just took two PFs in the previous draft and it would’ve hurt their fragile egos to have a second rounder out play them both.

I think he’s the perfect type of player to put next to Ayton if he can continue to develop. I’m a bit concerned about his development as he’s just turned 24 and hasn’t improved that much in two seasons.

If he was signed, I don’t see him hindering Holmes at all. They play different positions and provide different skill sets.

I don’t think there’s a team out there waiting to sign Jordan Bell. His numbers aren’t great. I think he can probably be had for something around $3M/year. I’m more concerned that a team will throw a decent sized deal at Holmes and we’ll lose him.
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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by Split T » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:25 pm

I liked Bell during the draft, I’m pretty meh on him now. He doesn’t play all that much for GS and has lost minutes to guys like Looney, Jones, etc. Holmes is better and I think they do play the same position. Bell can’t shoot, I wouldn’t want to play many minutes with Ayton/bell or Holmes/bell. Let’s just keep Holmes.

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by MightyMoog » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:57 pm

I think our big play is going to be Tobias Harris. Clippers are going to be focusing on Kawhi. I think we’ll pounce on Harris with a godfather type offer.

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Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:02 am

MightyMoog wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:57 pm
I think our big play is going to be Tobias Harris. Clippers are going to be focusing on Kawhi. I think we’ll pounce on Harris with a godfather type offer.
Another small forward?

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by ShelC » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:50 am

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:02 am
MightyMoog wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:57 pm
I think our big play is going to be Tobias Harris. Clippers are going to be focusing on Kawhi. I think we’ll pounce on Harris with a godfather type offer.
Another small forward?
He's mostly been playing the 4 the past 4 years.

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by Split T » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:12 am

Harris is 6’9 235 and was noticeably bigger than warren when we played them. He’s also back up to his rebound rate of his magic days now that he doesn’t play with rebound hogs Andre drummond or deandre Jordan.

Harris is a really good player. I think he’ll have quite a few offers.

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by Split T » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:46 am

Fun fact: We were so bad early on with some of our “vets” that every single player currently in our rotation, except 1, has a positive on-off court split for plus minus. The negatives:

Tyson Chandler, Trevor Ariza, Isaiah Canaan, Ryan Anderson, Jamal Crawford, George King, and Jawun Evans.

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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by Shabazz » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:24 am

Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:46 am
Fun fact: We were so bad early on with some of our “vets” that every single player currently in our rotation, except 1, has a positive on-off court split for plus minus. The negatives:

Tyson Chandler, Trevor Ariza, Isaiah Canaan, Ryan Anderson, Jamal Crawford, George King, and Jawun Evans.
That is fun!
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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by Superbone » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:07 pm

Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:24 am
Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:46 am
Fun fact: We were so bad early on with some of our “vets” that every single player currently in our rotation, except 1, has a positive on-off court split for plus minus. The negatives:

Tyson Chandler, Trevor Ariza, Isaiah Canaan, Ryan Anderson, Jamal Crawford, George King, and Jawun Evans.
That is fun!
It sure wasn't fun living through it! So glad we jettisoned most of those whether off the team or out of the rotation. Crawford seems to be slowing down before our very eyes. If so, I hope we use him sparingly if at all. Nice having him on the bench though.
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Re: Suns News: Weeks 11 & 12 - 12/24-1/6

Post by Shabazz » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:35 pm

Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:07 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:24 am
Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:46 am
Fun fact: We were so bad early on with some of our “vets” that every single player currently in our rotation, except 1, has a positive on-off court split for plus minus. The negatives:

Tyson Chandler, Trevor Ariza, Isaiah Canaan, Ryan Anderson, Jamal Crawford, George King, and Jawun Evans.
That is fun!
It sure wasn't fun living through it! So glad we jettisoned most of those whether off the team or out of the rotation. Crawford seems to be slowing down before our very eyes. If so, I hope we use him sparingly if at all. Nice having him on the bench though.
Yeah. I think Troy Daniels is much more useful.
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