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The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:01 pm
by Charlie Smithy!
So it seems like Booker has become somewhat a polarizing figure on this board, at least in the context of criticism.
I know that I've had/have my concerns with both Booker and his contract; I also recognize his innate talent, even given my frustrations.
However, I feel like criticism of Booker (to whatever degree) is being taken (in general) as an unfair overall indictment of him as a player in totality.
I can only guess that it's a combination of things:
1. His stature (both in talent and contract) as our best player.
2. Our collective frustration and impatience as a whole as Suns fans.
3. Something, something Robert Sarver? Lol.
What do ya'll think?
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:36 pm
by The Bobster
I just think he's overrated by Suns fans. He's a very good scorer, but needs to improve his efficiency, he gives better effort than he used to defensively, but he's still not very good, and he can be a little petulant sometimes.
He's not all-star caliber yet, but he's a good, young player who has a lot of potential.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:29 pm
by The Bobster
Tonight was a good example - he scored plenty of points (30 points on 10 of 20 shooting), but 9 turnovers.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:36 pm
by LazarusLong
He's Michael Redd, with good knees.
He's a good shooter being asked to do too much as far as run the team.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:00 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
The 70-point game is the worst thing that could've happened to him.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:02 pm
by specialsauce
He is not a #1 on a winning team. He is awful with the ball in his hands. He needs firstly an attitude change. He needs a coach that demands him to catch and shoot or immediately drive or PASS. Completely abandon this concept of asking him or allowing him to create the offense.
He needs to stop yelling at his teammates for making the same mistakes he makes continuously.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:24 pm
by iLLmatic
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:00 pm
The 70-point game is the worst thing that could've happened to him.
Damn if that ain't the truth..
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:28 pm
by Bucktastic365
specialsauce wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:02 pm
He is not a #1 on a winning team. He is awful with the ball in his hands. He needs firstly an attitude change. He needs a coach that demands him to catch and shoot or immediately drive or PASS. Completely abandon this concept of asking him or allowing him to create the offense.
He needs to stop yelling at his teammates for making the same mistakes he makes continuously.
PREACH!
2 thumbs up for this; it's where I'm at as well.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:36 pm
by Bucktastic365
Booker is: points, turnovers, attitude.
Sad thing is.....I still love him; he's Kobe, if Kobe got sent to an expansion team.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:50 pm
by specialsauce
Bucktastic365 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:36 pm
Booker is: points, turnovers, attitude.
Sad thing is.....I still love him; he's Kobe, if Kobe got sent to an expansion team.
He is MILES away from being Kobe. That is so insulting to KB. He was a beast defensively.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:59 pm
by Bucktastic365
specialsauce wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:50 pm
Bucktastic365 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:36 pm
Booker is: points, turnovers, attitude.
Sad thing is.....I still love him; he's Kobe, if Kobe got sent to an expansion team.
He is MILES away from being Kobe. That is so insulting to KB. He was a beast defensively.
Ok, I'll give you that. I should have clarified by saying offensively.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:23 pm
by specialsauce
Bucktastic365 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:59 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:50 pm
Bucktastic365 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:36 pm
Booker is: points, turnovers, attitude.
Sad thing is.....I still love him; he's Kobe, if Kobe got sent to an expansion team.
He is MILES away from being Kobe. That is so insulting to KB. He was a beast defensively.
Ok, I'll give you that. I should have clarified by saying offensively.
Fair
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:44 pm
by Shabazz
specialsauce wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:02 pm
Completely abandon this concept of asking him or allowing him to create the offense.
Booker is given all of that offensive creation responsibility because he's literally the only player on the team who can create for himself or others with any consistency. For the second year in a row.
You think we'd look any better if Josh Jackson or Crawford or Okobo were given those responsibilities? I'm sure Booker would love nothing more than to play with someone who could ably share the burden.
This franchise has failed him.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:05 pm
by Charlie Smithy!
That's a really good point, 'Bazz.
I do wonder what and where the balance is between a player's own individual responsibility for his progression, and a franchises responsibility to develop their own players.
Obviously during the Sarver era, we haven't exactly had a good track record for the latter.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:13 pm
by Nodack
We are in last place and he is the leader of the team. Of course he is going to get crapped on by some people. You have to take it out on someone. Human nature.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:46 am
by SDC
i think he'll be a better player playing off the ball.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:52 am
by Indy
Shabazz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:44 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:02 pm
Completely abandon this concept of asking him or allowing him to create the offense.
Booker is given all of that offensive creation responsibility because he's literally the only player on the team who can create for himself or others with any consistency. For the second year in a row.
You think we'd look any better if Josh Jackson or Crawford or Okobo were given those responsibilities? I'm sure Booker would love nothing more than to play with someone who could ably share the burden.
This franchise has failed him.
THIS
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:30 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:52 am
Shabazz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:44 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:02 pm
Completely abandon this concept of asking him or allowing him to create the offense.
Booker is given all of that offensive creation responsibility because he's literally the only player on the team who can create for himself or others with any consistency. For the second year in a row.
You think we'd look any better if Josh Jackson or Crawford or Okobo were given those responsibilities? I'm sure Booker would love nothing more than to play with someone who could ably share the burden.
This franchise has failed him.
THIS
<'Bone nods his head>
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:13 am
by Mori Chu
The backlash against Booker is overblown. Trade him for peanuts and picks, and you'll regret it. Drive him away, it'll set us back years in our already too-long rebuild.
Re: The polarization of Devin Booker
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:12 pm
by Ring_Wanted
This is just frustration speaking. But if this fanbase truly believes we are better off without Booker, we deserve all we get.