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Suns News: Week 7 12/2-12/8

Post by carey » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:32 pm

Remember when we were 7-4? Good times. The Suns are 1-6 since then and are starting off a 4 game road trip without Baynes once again.

Last Week's Games

vs. Washington LOSS 140-132
vs. Dallas LOSS 120-113


This Week's Games

Monday, December 2nd @ Charlotte 7:00 PM EST
Wednesday, December 4th @ Orlando 7:00 PM EST
Thursday, December 5th @ New Orleans 8:00 PM EST
Saturday, December 7th @ Houston 8:00 PM EST

Suns Stories

Suns fall to #16 in the ESPN power rankings - https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/282 ... tch-champs
The Suns have lost six of their past seven games, and issues in the paint have something to do with it. Over the past 10 games, the Suns rank 29th in the NBA in paint points allowed per game, according to NBA.com/stats. The Suns recently went 1-4 without center Aron Baynes due to a hip injury. And keep in mind that center Deandre Ayton, the No. 1 pick in the 2019 draft, still is serving a 25-game suspension for taking a banned diuretic. -- Spears

Suns’ Frank Kaminsky unsure how to feel playing against Hornets for first time - https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 588555001/

Suns’ Devin Booker fine with coach Monty Williams driving him ‘nuts’ - https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 329601002/

Center of the Sun: Suns end Week Six with a losing record for the first time this season - https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2019 ... season-nba
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Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/2-12/8

Post by Nodack » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:30 am

Not having any Centers will have an effect on rebounding.

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Post by In2ition » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:42 am

Nodack wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:30 am
Not having any Centers will have an effect on rebounding.
I feel like there are no lies in this statement.
"30 wins would be an extremely disappointing season" yeah, I said it and I mean it.

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Post by Nodack » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:41 am

Ha!

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Post by Wormwood » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:49 am

Tyler Johnson for Julius Randle. Who says no?

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Post by Superbone » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:53 am

Wormwood wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:49 am
Tyler Johnson for Julius Randle. Who says no?
James Jones? He seems to be looking for particular types of players and I'm not sure Randle fits that. I personally like the idea.
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Post by LazarusLong » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:06 pm

A competent GM wouldn't make that deal (from the Knicks side) but I'm uncertain about the amount of common sense in Knickerbockers organization.
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Post by Indy » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:18 pm

LazarusLong wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:06 pm
A competent GM wouldn't make that deal (from the Knicks side) but I'm uncertain about the amount of common sense in Knickerbockers organization.
I am completely certain that the amount of common sense is pretty low.

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Post by LazarusLong » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:26 pm

Indy wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:18 pm
LazarusLong wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:06 pm
A competent GM wouldn't make that deal (from the Knicks side) but I'm uncertain about the amount of common sense in Knickerbockers organization.
I am completely certain that the amount of common sense is pretty low.
I was being diplomatic. :D 8-)
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Post by ShelC » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:41 pm

Wormwood wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:49 am
Tyler Johnson for Julius Randle. Who says no?
I said it in the offseason and it killed me to say it then...M****s M****s would probably be a great fit here and the kind of PF we need. Randle is an ISO/attack PF with no defense and wouldn't fit the "program" that Monty and Jones seem to be creating here. NY is bringing out the worst in him.

Morris can be the faceup 4 similar to Dario with some more athleticism and defense who can help a playoff/bubble team. I thought Portland might have eyes for him and still might but Melo might have taken that role ironically. It'd take more than Tyler tho and he'd be a FA at the end of the year so any pick we'd give shouldn't be a good one. And Morris went to NY to be closer to his family in Philly. There's a chance he might not even want to be traded, especially back out west.

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Post by Superbone » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:03 pm

Guess who runs the fitness program at my work campus? You guessed it:

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Post by carey » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:19 am

ShelC wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:41 pm

I said it in the offseason and it killed me to say it then...M****s M****s would probably be a great fit here and the kind of PF we need. Randle is an ISO/attack PF with no defense and wouldn't fit the "program" that Monty and Jones seem to be creating here. NY is bringing out the worst in him.
He's trashed the organization several times since leaving. Zero chance he comes back. I think his skill set would be useful though.
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Post by Mori Chu » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:33 am

ShelC wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:41 pm
I said it in the offseason and it killed me to say it then...M****s M****s would probably be a great fit here and the kind of PF we need.
You go right now and wash out your whore mouth.

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Post by Shabazz » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:32 am

I don't think he's what we're missing at the 4. We're missing athleticism and interior D at the 4.

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Post by Ring_Wanted » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:33 am

Wormwood wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:49 am
Tyler Johnson for Julius Randle. Who says no?
I'd go for Portis instead. I get Randle is the better rebounder and playmaker/scorer, but is not a 3pt threat, and looking at his stats, his REB% is at a career lowest at 14.2% (actually, it has only decreased ever since his first season, when he posted a very respectable 19.5%).

Contract wise, Randle'd be on the books for the 21-22 season at $20M, with $4M guaranteed.

Portis, on the other hand, is a proven 3pt shooter (and this year is not rebounding less than Randle, as he has a 14.4% rate). His contract expires at 15.7M after next season.

Problem is, NYK has little incentive to do it besides shaving money, which they don't care about. Plus, they already have cap space for next season although they can't attract FAs and next year's class is pretty poor. They'd want a pick for sure.

If they offered Portis and Allonzo Trier (RFA, but ridiculously small cap hold) for Tyler and a lotto protected 1stR, I'd consider it.

Anyway, you know who would be absolutely perfect on this team? Freaking PJ Tucker. He sure has haters on here, but it happens that he is posting a ridiculous 69.6%TS, on 46.2%3pt, plus his usual defense and strength on the boards. There is no team in this league that wouldn't benefit greatly from having him.

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Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/2-12/8

Post by Nodack » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:01 am

I want to see Saric and Kaminsky just play PF for awhile alongside two centers Ayton and Baynes.

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Post by Superbone » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:25 am

Nodack wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:01 am
I want to see Saric and Kaminsky just play PF for awhile alongside two centers Ayton and Baynes.
Well, you're going to have to wait, my friend.
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Post by ShelC » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:59 am

Portis plays no defense. Doesn't even try. He's another black hole on offense, same as Randle. And neither he nor Randle are really 3pt shooters. Portis has been consistent from the corner 3, but neither are really face-up shooters at the 4 spot.

I've thought about Trier also as someone to try and pick up cheap to bring off the bench for some scoring punch, but I think he's too ISO and might not play the way we need him to.

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Post by Indy » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:27 am

Shabazz wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:32 am
I don't think he's what we're missing at the 4. We're missing athleticism and interior D at the 4.
Do you think there is any way we don't see a lot of Ayton and Baynes together (barring injury/suspensions)?

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Post by Democritus » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:10 am

Saric for Markkanen?
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