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• The Cavs appear to have very little market for Kevin Love right now, sources say. Everything is malleable until Thursday's deadline, but nothing appears serious on the Love front at this moment. The wild card was always Phoenix. The Suns are hard to predict. Rivals struggle to get a feel for the Suns' objectives.

They are four games out of the No. 8 spot, and Robert Sarver, their owner, has made no secret over the past few years of his ardent desire to snap their streak of postseason absences. They have Tyler Johnson's $19 million expiring contract, all of their own first-round picks, and a bundle of $3 million-$6 million contracts to use as filler. Playing time patterns suggest they do not conceive of Dario Saric as their long-term starting power forward.

Right now, there isn't a ton of Phoenix noise, but you always have to watch out.

BlueMikey wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:45 pm

K-Love wouldn't be terrible if the Suns were a bit more competitive, but you might be dealing with the corpse of K-Love in the last year or two of his contract for no real reason (get his contract on the hook just to get blown out in the first round of the playoffs?). Maybe still worth it to have another veteran presence assuming you don't have to give up too much. But Lowe is right, if the Suns do this, it is out of Sarver's desperation and failure to understand anything at all, like the rest of his ownership tenure.

The wild card was always Phoenix. The Suns are hard to predict. Rivals struggle to get a feel for the Suns' objectives.

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:10 pm

BlueMikey wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:45 pm

K-Love wouldn't be terrible if the Suns were a bit more competitive, but you might be dealing with the corpse of K-Love in the last year or two of his contract for no real reason (get his contract on the hook just to get blown out in the first round of the playoffs?). Maybe still worth it to have another veteran presence assuming you don't have to give up too much. But Lowe is right, if the Suns do this, it is out of Sarver's desperation and failure to understand anything at all, like the rest of his ownership tenure.

Hi Mikey, good to see you posting. Kevin Love is surprisingly only 31; he has 2 years left on his deal after this current season. I don't think it is too risky to keep him until he is 33. The key question to me would be, what would we give up to get him? If the market for Love is as cold as the current rumors suggest, could we hold out and give up only marginal assets like mediocre youngs and a heavily protected pick(s)?

djy2j wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:31 pm

Love for Okobo, Kaminsky, and Tyler Johnson works under the cap. Probably have to throw in a (highly) protected pick but I'd do that deal. I'm not sure how many offers Cle will have to sift through but they get out of his contract and get a young player and a pick.

I guess I'm to the point where we HAVE to do something to show Booker we are serious about trying to win. This losing culture needs to change. I'm done with collecting lottery picks every year. We don't know how to use them with both drafting or having them to use as assets.

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:40 pm

it honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they just waive the white flag with playoffs and trade Saric, Baynes and TJ for whatever they can get and hope they get decent lottery odds.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:47 pm

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:40 pm

it honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they just waive the white flag with playoffs and trade Saric, Baynes and TJ for whatever they can get and hope they get decent lottery odds.

Not sure how that would would sit with Book.

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:10 pm

Kevin Love is surprisingly only 31; he has 2 years left on his deal after this current season.

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:10 pm

BlueMikey wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:45 pm

K-Love wouldn't be terrible if the Suns were a bit more competitive, but you might be dealing with the corpse of K-Love in the last year or two of his contract for no real reason (get his contract on the hook just to get blown out in the first round of the playoffs?). Maybe still worth it to have another veteran presence assuming you don't have to give up too much. But Lowe is right, if the Suns do this, it is out of Sarver's desperation and failure to understand anything at all, like the rest of his ownership tenure.

Hi Mikey, good to see you posting. Kevin Love is surprisingly only 31; he has 2 years left on his deal after this current season. I don't think it is too risky to keep him until he is 33. The key question to me would be, what would we give up to get him? If the market for Love is as cold as the current rumors suggest, could we hold out and give up only marginal assets like mediocre youngs and a heavily protected pick(s)?

ShelC wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:47 pm

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:40 pm

it honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they just waive the white flag with playoffs and trade Saric, Baynes and TJ for whatever they can get and hope they get decent lottery odds.

Not sure how that would would sit with Book.

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:39 am

ShelC wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:47 pm

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:40 pm

it honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they just waive the white flag with playoffs and trade Saric, Baynes and TJ for whatever they can get and hope they get decent lottery odds.

Not sure how that would would sit with Book.

Guess what? I don't really give a s*** if he likes it or not. He's got four more years on his contract.

You can't cater to every good player on your team (he's really good, but he's not a star you build champions around). If he ever wants to play somewhere else he can play out his contract and sign somewhere else in 2024.

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:17 pm

I hadn't realized that the Wolves have lost 12 in a row. What a disaster. Are they the biggest disappointment in the league this year?