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Suns Stories

Why Suns might need Robert Sarver's approval to complete a Jae Crowder trade
The NBA is requiring that any large deal receive sign off from Phoenix's soon-to-be former owner
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/why- ... der-trade/

Is it time for the Suns to take a step back?
The Suns are 2-7 without Devin Booker with no light at the end of the tunnel in sight
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2023 ... vin-booker

B/R Says Suns Will Eventually Settle Standards on Jae Crowder Trade
The Phoenix Suns have had a difficult time in trade negotiations for Jae Crowder. Bleacher Report says they'll eventually settle on their demands for the power forward.
https://www.si.com/nba/suns/analysis/br ... wder-trade

Thanks for the thread, old timer. These articles are appropriately bleak.

Al McCoy this morning said the Suns are beginning games with a lack of fire and preparedness.
Other teams are noticing that Suns are not physical and are taking it to them early, with little or no response from Phoenix.

He also said Ayton should post up more earlier in the game.
The philosophy of him setting up high and establishing picks for shooters isn't working.

Ayton posting from 12-14ft out, turning, facing and shooting a jumper isn't any better than Shamet or CP or Mikal working for a shot on the perimeter. If Ayton posted, drove at his man and attacked the rim trying to get fouled, I'd agree with that strategy. But he faces up for jumpers or puts up his hook for 2pts that are basically empty points.

If he could get to the line about 8-10 times a game, he would help the team and offense tremendously. I just don't see him changing his game to that any time soon.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:02 am

Ayton posting from 12-14ft out, turning, facing and shooting a jumper isn't any better than Shamet or CP or Mikal working for a shot on the perimeter. If Ayton posted, drove at his man and attacked the rim trying to get fouled, I'd agree with that strategy. But he faces up for jumpers or puts up his hook for 2pts that are basically empty points.

Well, that tactic didn't work against the Knicks, with Shamet heaving more bricks than a drunken mason.
I tend to listen to what Al says because he's seen a few Suns games ...

In2ition wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:38 am

If he could get to the line about 8-10 times a game, he would help the team and offense tremendously. I just don't see him changing his game to that any time soon.

Let's not be greedy. Let's start with 4-6 times a game. And maybe put a little more arc on his shot. Even his FTs are flat.

LazarusLong wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:52 pm

ShelC wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:02 am

Ayton posting from 12-14ft out, turning, facing and shooting a jumper isn't any better than Shamet or CP or Mikal working for a shot on the perimeter. If Ayton posted, drove at his man and attacked the rim trying to get fouled, I'd agree with that strategy. But he faces up for jumpers or puts up his hook for 2pts that are basically empty points.

Well, that tactic didn't work against the Knicks, with Shamet heaving more bricks than a drunken mason.
I tend to listen to what Al says because he's seen a few Suns games ...

I'm not arguing the strategy, I'm arguing the execution. If we had someone down low like Embiid, I'd be all for more post ups.

James Jones is now telling Burns and Gambo that he is not ruling out a big roster shakeup before the deadline, depending on how the team plays.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:41 pm

James Jones is now telling Burns and Gambo that he is not ruling out a big roster shakeup before the deadline, depending on how the team plays.

Cant wait til this mf goes out and reacquires Jalen Smith for a 1st.

Here's the audio of Al this morning: https://arizonasports.com/category/podc ... Show+Audio

And you all think I'm too much of an Ayton homer...at least I'm willing to criticize Ayton's lack of rebounding.

TOO wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:57 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:41 pm

James Jones is now telling Burns and Gambo that he is not ruling out a big roster shakeup before the deadline, depending on how the team plays.

Cant wait til this mf goes out and reacquires Jalen Smith for a 1st.

Right?

At this point, he needs to figure something out, since they have no one that pressures the rim or opposing defense. No one available on the team right now can get to the line regularly and keep defenses honest.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:41 pm

James Jones is now telling Burns and Gambo that he is not ruling out a big roster shakeup before the deadline, depending on how the team plays.

A big roster shakeup, to me, would mean some combo of Mikal/the Cams/DA going out in a deal for a big name player(s). Trading Shamet, Dario, Jae, TC, etc for different role players would seem lateral.

I think trading more than just Crowder and maybe Saric would count as a shakeup to JJ. Basically if anyone from the rotation is moved.

I think the way Gambo asked it was whether the roster would look pretty much the same or a lot different after the deadline.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:41 pm

James Jones is now telling Burns and Gambo that he is not ruling out a big roster shakeup before the deadline, depending on how the team plays.

Well, that's different. Internal development alone isn't enough anymore?

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:41 pm

James Jones is now telling Burns and Gambo that he is not ruling out a big roster shakeup before the deadline, depending on how the team plays.

Don't piss on my back and tell me that this is the spring rain to end the drought ...

Teams can start signing 10-day contracts tomorrow. Will be interested to see what we do, if anything. Suns have an open spot and Payne may be out a bit again. I can’t see a reason not to sign someone. Mo Harkless? Cousins*? Bueller?



*not happening with CP on the roster but he’d help the offense.

I would hope we would sign a point guard.

Jimmer available?