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I thought this would be a good poll/discussion since it’s something I’ve been thinking about and it was brought up in another thread.

I vote the first option, and would definitely trade KD back for the players and just a couple of picks. I wish we would have given the same roster a chance this season and if it didn’t work out, give them one more chance next season with a new coach. (While also upgrading some of the rotation spots using some picks/expirings, of course.)

Can it be both? That's how I feel. It was cool to go for it but KD wasn't the same KD for us in the playoffs. Maybe it'll just take more time. Plus, they gave Brooklyn EVERYTHING they wanted. Should have held out for a better deal. From what I've seen so far, I'd probably reverse it but that's easy to see in hindsight.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:58 pm

Can it be both? That's how I feel. It was cool to go for it but KD wasn't the same KD for us in the playoffs. Maybe it'll just take more time. Plus, they gave Brooklyn EVERYTHING they wanted. Should have held out for a better deal. From what I've seen so far, I'd probably reverse it but that's easy to see in hindsight.

Yeah that was definitely another option. Wait until this summer to try to make a better deal.

I still vote right move…though I do think in retrospect that we gave up too much. I would’ve held back either Crowder, a 1st, or CamJ and if they said no, I would’ve said we’ll talk to you in the summer then.

If we waited, we could’ve made a separate Crowder trade to add a depth piece, made our 2023 draft pick, and banked some increased value in Mikal.

I think if we came this summer and offered Mikal/contracts and 2 1sts, we probably could’ve got him. Or maybe, just maybe be able to build a 3-team trade around Ayton/CamJ/4 1sts.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:00 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:58 pm

Can it be both? That's how I feel. It was cool to go for it but KD wasn't the same KD for us in the playoffs. Maybe it'll just take more time. Plus, they gave Brooklyn EVERYTHING they wanted. Should have held out for a better deal. From what I've seen so far, I'd probably reverse it but that's easy to see in hindsight.

Yeah that was definitely another option. Wait until this summer to try to make a better deal.

Or just then. I think Brooklyn would have eventually buckled.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:00 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:00 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:58 pm

Can it be both? That's how I feel. It was cool to go for it but KD wasn't the same KD for us in the playoffs. Maybe it'll just take more time. Plus, they gave Brooklyn EVERYTHING they wanted. Should have held out for a better deal. From what I've seen so far, I'd probably reverse it but that's easy to see in hindsight.

Yeah that was definitely another option. Wait until this summer to try to make a better deal.

Or just then. I think Brooklyn would have eventually buckled.

I do think giving in to Brooklyn's Crowder demand at the last minute was unnecessary. We probably could have gotten something additional for Crowder.

We got fleeced. I really like KD on this team, but we gave up too much. So I vote "Yes" it was a mistake. I get why they did it, but I think ultimately it'll harm our future more than it helps our present.

It’ll come down to whether we win a title or not in the next 3 years

I miss Mikal Bridges with my heart and soul, but Kevin Durant is a once In a lifetime player.

When the trade happened I was happy and heartbroken at the same time. Let's see what the Suns brass put together first. Check back next year.

The KD trade was like buying the car of your dreams, but paying the lot sticker price, instead of dealing up from invoice ...

This team wasn't getting anywhere with the personnel it had, so changes had to be made. And I think they botched the Crowder situation beginning with not moving him before the season started.

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:32 am

This team wasn't getting anywhere with the personnel it had, so changes had to be made.

NO ONE wanted to stand pat.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:49 pm

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:32 am

This team wasn't getting anywhere with the personnel it had, so changes had to be made.

NO ONE wanted to stand pat.

You're right. They just traded the guys that pretty much no one wanted them to.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:36 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:49 pm

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:32 am

This team wasn't getting anywhere with the personnel it had, so changes had to be made.

NO ONE wanted to stand pat.

You're right. They just traded the guys that pretty much no one wanted them to.

Well, you have to give up something to get something. I don't think there's a team in the league that wouldn't have traded Bridges for Durant. Or Bridges and Johnson even. It's just a matter of how healthy Durant is here and what all the picks amount to.

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:28 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:36 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:49 pm

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:32 am

This team wasn't getting anywhere with the personnel it had, so changes had to be made.

NO ONE wanted to stand pat.

You're right. They just traded the guys that pretty much no one wanted them to.

Well, you have to give up something to get something. I don't think there's a team in the league that wouldn't have traded Bridges for Durant. Or Bridges and Johnson even. It's just a matter of how healthy Durant is here and what all the picks amount to.

You're also right. I'm only saying it would've been better if the something they gave up wasn't their best young player on the roster.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:31 pm

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:28 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:36 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:49 pm

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:32 am

This team wasn't getting anywhere with the personnel it had, so changes had to be made.

NO ONE wanted to stand pat.

You're right. They just traded the guys that pretty much no one wanted them to.

Well, you have to give up something to get something. I don't think there's a team in the league that wouldn't have traded Bridges for Durant. Or Bridges and Johnson even. It's just a matter of how healthy Durant is here and what all the picks amount to.

You're also right. I'm only saying it would've been better if the something they gave up wasn't their best young player on the roster.

Then Brooklyn wouldn't have made the deal.

I like Bridges a lot two and I feel like Monty held him back from what he was obviously capable of. Hell, I think he was probably the most popular player on the roster. Brooklyn's happy and I'm sure the Suns are happy with having Durant.

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:43 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:31 pm

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:28 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:36 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:49 pm

NO ONE wanted to stand pat.

You're right. They just traded the guys that pretty much no one wanted them to.

Well, you have to give up something to get something. I don't think there's a team in the league that wouldn't have traded Bridges for Durant. Or Bridges and Johnson even. It's just a matter of how healthy Durant is here and what all the picks amount to.

You're also right. I'm only saying it would've been better if the something they gave up wasn't their best young player on the roster.

Then Brooklyn wouldn't have made the deal.

I like Bridges a lot two and I feel like Monty held him back from what he was obviously capable of. Hell, I think he was probably the most popular player on the roster. Brooklyn's happy and I'm sure the Suns are happy with having Durant.

Just my way of saying it should've been Ayton without actually writing his name. Now we have another thread about him.

Monty wasn't holding Mikal back. Mikal's offense gradually got better and he broke out when he was forced into a scoring role due to all the injuries. Prior to that, he didn't have the mindset or instincts of a scorer. He's said as much himself.

Let's stop revising history and acting like Monty was a shit coach who kept us from a 3peat. We were dreck before he got here. He wasn't perfect and maybe there's a sour taste from the playoff exits but come on.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:41 pm

Monty wasn't holding Mikal back. Mikal's offense gradually got better and he broke out when he was forced into a scoring role due to all the injuries. Prior to that, he didn't have the mindset or instincts of a scorer.

That could be because Monty was holding him back.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:41 pm

Monty wasn't holding Mikal back. Mikal's offense gradually got better and he broke out when he was forced into a scoring role due to all the injuries. Prior to that, he didn't have the mindset or instincts of a scorer. He's said as much himself.

Let's stop revising history and acting like Monty was a shit coach who kept us from a 3peat. We were dreck before he got here. He wasn't perfect and maybe there's a sour taste from the playoff exits but come on.

He definitely wasn't a shit coach. He has his flaws, as everyone does l, but he did a heck of a job helping to turn this franchise around. Taking us all the way to the finals was a phenomenal achievement.

Where I think he does lose some credit, and what I think cost him his job, was allowing us to lose those two game 7's in the manner that we did. Those weren't blowouts, they were humiliations. Had they been several years apart he might have survived but back to back? It would take a very patient owner to overlook that.