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Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:15 am
by Superbone
Last Week's Games
Mon, Feb 3 @ Blazers
119-121 LOSS 
Wed, Feb 5 @ Thunder
109-140 LOSS
Fri, Feb 7 vs Jazz
135-127 WIN 
Fri, Feb 8 vs Nuggets
105-122 LOSS
This Week's Games
Tues, Feb 11th vs Memphis at 10:00PM EST on TNT/TRUTV/MAX
Wed, Feb 12th @ Houston at 8:30PM EST on Suns Live, Arizona's Family 3TV / Arizona's Family Sports
***All-Star Break***
Suns Stories
Kevin Durant trade? What summer landscape looks like for Suns after near deals at deadline
The Durant trade market changes drastically over the summer
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kevi ... -deadline/
Kevin Durant addresses Suns trade rumors post-deadline: 'Everybody's bought and sold in this league'
https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-durant-a ... 43153.html
Latest Devin Booker snub should not come as a surprise to Suns fans
This has not been a memorable season so far for Devin Booker
https://valleyofthesuns.com/latest-devi ... -suns-fans
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:10 am
by Mori Chu
Thanks for the threads, 'Boney!
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:38 am
by ShelC
Good article here on Richards and Dunn
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:45 pm
by SunsRIt
I really miss the days of having a dominant point guard paired with a dominant power forward. Who would you say is a dominant power forward in the league today? Banchero? Maybe Gordon?
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:17 pm
by Split T
Giannis
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:17 pm
by In2ition
AD
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:18 pm
by Superbone
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:45 pm
I really miss the days of having a dominant point guard paired with a dominant power forward. Who would you say is a dominant power forward in the league today? Banchero? Maybe Gordon?
That's a really good question. It doesn't seem like there are many in recent years. Seems to have shifted to the center position. I guess Giannis is the best I can think of at the moment.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:18 pm
by Superbone
I think of him as a center.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:22 pm
by Split T
In reality the PF position has changed quite a bit. The great PF’s of the past would almost all be 5s today. Malone, Duncan, KG, Amare…Barkley would still be a 4 and Dirk might still play the 4, but most have become 5s.
KD plays the 4 now, so we do in fact have a dominant PF. LeBron is a 4. Tatum even plays the 4.
I think the old traditional positions have changed. You used to have a 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5…now most teams have switched an extra 3 in place of their 5. 1, 2, 3, 3, 4. In some cases(ours) we add a 2 in place of our 5. 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:23 pm
by Split T
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:18 pm
I think of him as a center.
He’s mostly played C, but Dallas was going to try and play him at the 4.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:26 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:23 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:18 pm
I think of him as a center.
He’s mostly played C, but Dallas was going to try and play him at the 4.
They'll be lucky to play him at all.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:04 pm
by bajanguy008
Zion....
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:47 pm
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:22 pm
In reality the PF position has changed quite a bit. The great PF’s of the past would almost all be 5s today. Malone, Duncan, KG, Amare…Barkley would still be a 4 and Dirk might still play the 4, but most have become 5s.
KD plays the 4 now, so we do in fact have a dominant PF. LeBron is a 4. Tatum even plays the 4.
I think the old traditional positions have changed. You used to have a 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5…now most teams have switched an extra 3 in place of their 5. 1, 2, 3, 3, 4. In some cases(ours) we add a 2 in place of our 5. 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
I think this is right. The right mix to me seems to be 1, 2, 2/3, 3, 4/5. In terms of, still one primary ballhandler / PG, one or two SGs, one or two SFs/wings, and a big man who's somewhere between a PF and a C. Almost nobody (save last year's Wolves) dares to try to roll out two classic 4/5 men in their starting lineup, and Minny did it because KAT is a finesse player and outside shooter.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:24 pm
by pickle
Well Utah starts 3 seven footers so there’s that.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:43 pm
by Split T
Utah is trying to lose though
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:32 pm
by Split T
It’s funny that we’ve tried everything except bringing Tyus off the bench. Gotta think we’ll never promise a borderline starter they can start ever again.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:37 am
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:32 pm
It’s funny that we’ve tried everything except bringing Tyus off the bench. Gotta think we’ll never promise a borderline starter they can start ever again.
Do we have actual confirmation that they promised Tyus a starting role when they signed him? It seems like he is still starting despite not being a great fit with the lineup. Are we making good on a back-door condition of his signing for the minimum?
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:09 am
by Split T
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:37 am
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:32 pm
It’s funny that we’ve tried everything except bringing Tyus off the bench. Gotta think we’ll never promise a borderline starter they can start ever again.
Do we have actual confirmation that they promised Tyus a starting role when they signed him? It seems like he is still starting despite not being a great fit with the lineup. Are we making good on a back-door condition of his signing for the minimum?
No confirmation, but he mentioned being the starting pg when he signed…I think we clearly promised it to him.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:57 am
by Carno
That's the only reason I can think for him continuing to start. He has been bad.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/10 - 2/16)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:19 am
by ShelC
I know there were reports he turned down more money elsewhere to start and showcase himself as a starter on a "contender". I don't know that he would've started on those other teams. NY was one of them and he definitely wouldn't have started there.
But really, every team in the league knows who he is and what he does and they also know our roster is a mess. Can't blame him for all of our problems but he's also getting exposed badly as a starter.