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Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 3:22 am
by ShelC
This Week's Games
Weds, Oct 22nd vs Sacramento 10:00PM EST on Suns Live, Arizona's Family 3TV / Arizona's Family Sports
Fri, Oct 24th @ LA Clippers at 10:30PM EST on Suns Live, Arizona's Family 3TV / Arizona's Family Sports
Sat, Oct 25th @ Denver at 9:00PM EST on Suns Live, Arizona's Family 3TV / Arizona's Family Sports / CBS 5

Suns Stories
Suns Officially Pass on Extending New Starter
https://www.si.com/nba/suns/news/phoeni ... ew-starter

The youth movement is underway in Phoenix
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/suns ... s-ighodaro

Suns open to NBA’s ever-shifting style with options for ‘positionless’ era
https://arizonasports.com/nba/phoenix-s ... s/3599657/

2025-26 NBA season preview: Rankings, predictions, odds
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/466 ... -odds-more
26. Phoenix Suns
Chances to make playoffs: 1.5%
Projected wins: 31.8

Biggest thing we'll be talking about this season: Is Devin Booker on board with the direction of the franchise? It's hard to believe that just four years ago, Booker had back-to-back 40-point games in the NBA Finals and the Suns were just two wins away from their first championship. Playing for his seventh different coach in Jordan Ott since being drafted in 2015, Booker, who turns 29 on Oct. 30, said he is ready to take on the challenge of leading Phoenix in the fiercely crowded Western Conference. "We have unfinished business here," Booker said before the Suns' preseason opener. "Obviously a younger team and I'll have more of a leadership responsibility. And that's fine with me. I've pretty much seen it all and I'm going to give my two cents when I feel like I fits in."

Biggest strength: Youth and athleticism. After relying on aging stars such as Chris Paul, Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal in recent seasons, Booker is now flanked by a handful of fresh faces in Jalen Green (23), Dillon Brooks (29), Mark Williams (23) and Khaman Maluach (19). They are built to run.
Devin Booker is one of two players to average 25-plus points in each of the past seven seasons (with Giannis Antetokounmpo).

Biggest concern: With this much turnover from last season, not only in the roster but with Ott taking over for Mike Budenholzer on the sidelines, it's going to take time for this group to come together. And a preseason trip to China, cutting into training camp, didn't help. Plus, playing in the West, there won't be many nights when Phoenix will get a break. -- McMenamin

Bold (but realistic) prediction:
Phoenix finishes 14th in the West. The Suns have shooting guards, centers and just about nothing else on their roster, and a lack of playmaking and defense will make it hard for them to win with any consistency in such a deep conference. Utah's a near lock to finish last in the West, but second to last is a realistic possibility for a team that, until recently, was all-in for a title. -- Kram

Number to watch: 26.2
With a change in personnel and head coach, how much will the Suns attack the rim? Last season, 26.2% of their shots were layup or dunk attempts, the lowest rate by any team in a season since player tracking began in 2013-14.

Fantasy nugget: Booker could see the highest usage rate of his career with Durant and Beal both traded away this offseason. Booker averaged 20.1 FGA and 27.3 PPG in games without Durant and Beal last season. -- Moody
Power Rankings, Week 1: Thunder reign as 2025-26 season begins
https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2025-26-week-1
#25 Phoenix Suns
Last Week:25

Preseason record: 3-1
OffRtg: 109.9 (17) DefRtg: 102.2 (5) NetRtg: +7.7 (6) Pace: 101.1 (25)

Expectations for the Suns went out the door with Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal, but they still have some vets who could keep them somewhat competitive and more enjoyable to watch than they were last season.

Preseason takeaways

The Suns played some physical defense, led by their wing duo of Brooks and Dunn. They forced an incredible 27.4 turnovers per 100 possessions in 59 minutes with both guys on the floor, but Dillon Brooks (6.7) and Ryan Dunn (6.2) were two of the eight players who played at least 50 preseason minutes and committed more than six fouls per 36.

He only played against the Nets and the Dončić-less Lakers, but the Suns outscored their opponents by 18.9 points per 100 possessions in Devin Booker’s 79 minutes. And despite the lack of a real point guard, they kept their turnover rate relatively low.

Something to watch in Week 1: The restricted area. Last season, the Suns were outscored by 8.2 points per game in the restricted area, the league’s biggest discrepancy by a huge margin. The departures of Beal and Durant should make them less of a jump-shooting team, while Mark Williams (who missed the entire preseason) gives them some additional rim protection.

The Suns will play their first 12 games within the Western Conference, with a tough weekend back-to-back where they’ll visit the Clippers and Nuggets. They were 7-15 (1-11 after Jan. 27) against the top six teams in the West last season.

Week 1: vs. SAC, @ LAC, @ DEN

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:20 am
by Superbone
Biggest concern: With this much turnover from last season, not only in the roster but with Ott taking over for Mike Budenholzer on the sidelines, it's going to take time for this group to come together. And a preseason trip to China, cutting into training camp, didn't help. Plus, playing in the West, there won't be many nights when Phoenix will get a break. -- McMenamin
Is this guy even paying attention? This team has already come together more than the last two seasons.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:42 am
by specialsauce
Well there's a high likelihood we start the year 0-3 or 1-2

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:55 am
by Shabazz
What’s striking to me is how, after two years of being “contenders,” constantly in the news, etc, we’re pretty irrelevant in the NBA discourse these days. I’m sure it will be a better season as a fan than the last two (how could it not?), but there’s something kind of depressing about being back with the Bulls, Kings, Pelicans class of teams in terms of short and long-term outlook.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:05 am
by Superbone
From the Athletic:

Bold NBA 2025-26 season predictions: New champion, fresh faces in MVP race and more
Phoenix Suns

They’ll win more games than last season: I know. Low bar. With the league’s highest payroll, the Suns won 36 games last season and missed the Play-In Tournament. It was a miserable year, one that couldn’t end quickly enough. This will be better. The weight of expectations is gone. Without Durant, Devin Booker will be more aggressive. Dillon Brooks will provide a defensive edge (and other shenanigans). Jalen Green will … actually, I’m not yet sure.

The whiff potential here is significant. To improve, the Suns will need big man Mark Williams to stay healthy, something he has not done. Booker will have to be at his best while bringing out the best in Green, a tricky task. Ryan Dunn will have to be consistent from 3. A playoff team? No. But 38 wins with a chance at the final Play-In spot? That’s doable. — Doug Haller

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:07 am
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:55 am
What’s striking to me is how, after two years of being “contenders,” constantly in the news, etc, we’re pretty irrelevant in the NBA discourse these days. I’m sure it will be a better season as a fan than the last two (how could it not?), but there’s something kind of depressing about being back with the Bulls, Kings, Pelicans class of teams in terms of short and long-term outlook.
I don't know. I'd rather not be in the limelight and be bad like last season but out of it and with a much better brand of basketball. In other words, I'd rather surprise than disappoint. Hopefully, when we're back in it, we have a MUCH better team than the Big 3 era. But like you said, how could we not?

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:11 am
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 3:22 am
The youth movement is underway in Phoenix
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/suns ... s-ighodaro
It is wild that most of the Suns are younger than my sons!

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:14 am
by ShelC

The Suns will have the worst defense in the NBA.

Only three teams allowed more points per 100 possessions than the Suns last year. Much of that was thanks to their abysmal effort getting back in transition and lackadaisical approach to rotating in the half court. In both areas, Phoenix finished dead last in points per play. Hustle was voluntary on most nights and a complete fantasy on others. Everything else was atrocious, too. They didn’t force turnovers, and, despite embracing a pack-the-paint mentality to account for their absence of a traditional rim protector, still gave up a staggering 68.4 percent shooting in the restricted area.

Now, one season removed from a mismanaged disaster of epic proportions that soured what had been a convivial relationship with one of the greatest players in NBA history, the Suns have hired Jordan Ott, a first-time head coach who spent the preseason tinkering with a pressure-heavy defensive strategy that, given this team’s personnel, will likely end in total disaster. Trying hard is only half the battle; when Jalen Green, Devin Booker, Grayson Allen, and Collin Gillespie factor heavily into your rotation, the battle is perpetually uphill.

Ryan Dunn is a keeper and there are lineup combinations with Dillon Brooks and Royce O’Neale that may wreak some havoc, but, well, at the same time, Brooks and O’Neale may/should be traded. And regardless of the scheme that’s deployed by Ott, Phoenix’s defensive success hinges on a big man rotation that’s antsy, inexperienced, and injury prone. All those words describe Mark Williams, a specious franchise center whom the franchise-center-needing Charlotte Hornets spent all least season shopping around.

Williams is pivotal here. His size, length, and leaping ability ooze potential. In truth, last season he allowed an at-rim field goal percentage that was 5.7 percentage points worse with him on the court than off. There’s more that goes into that number, but Williams has yet to show he can provide the type of reliable paint security that Phoenix will desperately need. Rookie big Khaman Maluach isn’t the answer (yet), nor is last year’s purported savior Nick Richards. Phoenix’s offense will have a say here too. Iffy shot selection (which Green and Brooks will provide) combined with foreseeable turnovers will make it harder for a team lacking an established point guard to get organized heading the other way.

There will be very bad defenses in the NBA this season (to name a few, shout-out to Sacramento, Utah, Washington, and Brooklyn), but something tells me Phoenix will run itself into the ground as the season goes along.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:20 am
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:14 am

The Suns will have the worst defense in the NBA.

Only three teams allowed more points per 100 possessions than the Suns last year. Much of that was thanks to their abysmal effort getting back in transition and lackadaisical approach to rotating in the half court. In both areas, Phoenix finished dead last in points per play. Hustle was voluntary on most nights and a complete fantasy on others. Everything else was atrocious, too. They didn’t force turnovers, and, despite embracing a pack-the-paint mentality to account for their absence of a traditional rim protector, still gave up a staggering 68.4 percent shooting in the restricted area.

Now, one season removed from a mismanaged disaster of epic proportions that soured what had been a convivial relationship with one of the greatest players in NBA history, the Suns have hired Jordan Ott, a first-time head coach who spent the preseason tinkering with a pressure-heavy defensive strategy that, given this team’s personnel, will likely end in total disaster. Trying hard is only half the battle; when Jalen Green, Devin Booker, Grayson Allen, and Collin Gillespie factor heavily into your rotation, the battle is perpetually uphill.

Ryan Dunn is a keeper and there are lineup combinations with Dillon Brooks and Royce O’Neale that may wreak some havoc, but, well, at the same time, Brooks and O’Neale may/should be traded. And regardless of the scheme that’s deployed by Ott, Phoenix’s defensive success hinges on a big man rotation that’s antsy, inexperienced, and injury prone. All those words describe Mark Williams, a specious franchise center whom the franchise-center-needing Charlotte Hornets spent all least season shopping around.

Williams is pivotal here. His size, length, and leaping ability ooze potential. In truth, last season he allowed an at-rim field goal percentage that was 5.7 percentage points worse with him on the court than off. There’s more that goes into that number, but Williams has yet to show he can provide the type of reliable paint security that Phoenix will desperately need. Rookie big Khaman Maluach isn’t the answer (yet), nor is last year’s purported savior Nick Richards. Phoenix’s offense will have a say here too. Iffy shot selection (which Green and Brooks will provide) combined with foreseeable turnovers will make it harder for a team lacking an established point guard to get organized heading the other way.

There will be very bad defenses in the NBA this season (to name a few, shout-out to Sacramento, Utah, Washington, and Brooklyn), but something tells me Phoenix will run itself into the ground as the season goes along.
I think this guy is going to look like a fool. At least I hope so.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:20 am
by Superbone

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:28 am
by ShelC
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:42 am
Well there's a high likelihood we start the year 0-3 or 1-2
We should beat the Kings. I'd love it if we could hang tough with the Clips and get a W. I really don't like them, think they're overrated and we should beat them but that's my bias speaking.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:37 am
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:28 am
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:42 am
Well there's a high likelihood we start the year 0-3 or 1-2
We should beat the Kings. I'd love it if we could hang tough with the Clips and get a W. I really don't like them, think they're overrated and we should beat them but that's my bias speaking.
We are favored opening night against the Kings.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:57 am
by SunsRIt
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:20 am
ShelC wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:14 am

The Suns will have the worst defense in the NBA.

Only three teams allowed more points per 100 possessions than the Suns last year. Much of that was thanks to their abysmal effort getting back in transition and lackadaisical approach to rotating in the half court. In both areas, Phoenix finished dead last in points per play. Hustle was voluntary on most nights and a complete fantasy on others. Everything else was atrocious, too. They didn’t force turnovers, and, despite embracing a pack-the-paint mentality to account for their absence of a traditional rim protector, still gave up a staggering 68.4 percent shooting in the restricted area.

Now, one season removed from a mismanaged disaster of epic proportions that soured what had been a convivial relationship with one of the greatest players in NBA history, the Suns have hired Jordan Ott, a first-time head coach who spent the preseason tinkering with a pressure-heavy defensive strategy that, given this team’s personnel, will likely end in total disaster. Trying hard is only half the battle; when Jalen Green, Devin Booker, Grayson Allen, and Collin Gillespie factor heavily into your rotation, the battle is perpetually uphill.

Ryan Dunn is a keeper and there are lineup combinations with Dillon Brooks and Royce O’Neale that may wreak some havoc, but, well, at the same time, Brooks and O’Neale may/should be traded. And regardless of the scheme that’s deployed by Ott, Phoenix’s defensive success hinges on a big man rotation that’s antsy, inexperienced, and injury prone. All those words describe Mark Williams, a specious franchise center whom the franchise-center-needing Charlotte Hornets spent all least season shopping around.

Williams is pivotal here. His size, length, and leaping ability ooze potential. In truth, last season he allowed an at-rim field goal percentage that was 5.7 percentage points worse with him on the court than off. There’s more that goes into that number, but Williams has yet to show he can provide the type of reliable paint security that Phoenix will desperately need. Rookie big Khaman Maluach isn’t the answer (yet), nor is last year’s purported savior Nick Richards. Phoenix’s offense will have a say here too. Iffy shot selection (which Green and Brooks will provide) combined with foreseeable turnovers will make it harder for a team lacking an established point guard to get organized heading the other way.

There will be very bad defenses in the NBA this season (to name a few, shout-out to Sacramento, Utah, Washington, and Brooklyn), but something tells me Phoenix will run itself into the ground as the season goes along.
I think this guy is going to look like a fool. At least I hope so.
I think “bold predictions” means throw something at the wall and see if it sticks. If it does he looks like a genius. Chances are slim he hits on anything.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:18 am
by Superbone
SunsRIt wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:57 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:20 am
ShelC wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:14 am
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I think this guy is going to look like a fool. At least I hope so.
I think “bold predictions” means throw something at the wall and see if it sticks. If it does he looks like a genius. Chances are slim he hits on anything.
Yup, like those "analysts" predicting what the stock market will do.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 2:44 pm
by ShelC
Post-practice quotes and videos

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Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 6:19 pm
by Mori Chu
Anybody else watching OKC/HOU? I am super hate-watching hoping Durant sucks and the Rockets lose. Right now Houston is up 7 in the middle of the 3rd quarter, but OKC is showing signs of life.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 6:29 pm
by Split T
I guess I didn’t develop the KD hate that most did..I’d rather Houston win the finals than OKC or Denver.

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 8:43 pm
by Wally_West

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:04 pm
by Split T
It’s pretty insane to think this team will have the worst defense in the league…they know teams like Utah and Brooklyn exist, right? Two teams with no intention to win games

Re: Suns News: Week 1 (10/20 - 10/26) WE BACK MFs!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:43 pm
by BKinSJC
Mori Chu wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 6:19 pm
Anybody else watching OKC/HOU? I am super hate-watching hoping Durant sucks and the Rockets lose. Right now Houston is up 7 in the middle of the 3rd quarter, but OKC is showing signs of life.
His first game in Houston *should* have ended with him calling an illegal timeout at the end of the first overtime, but apparently the ghost of Richie Powers possessed the officials right then and they looked it off. So instead, his first game ended with him taking an obvious foul on SGA to provide the winning points for OKC, and fouling out in the process.

Durant was good for the most part, and served as a great decoy for Sengun, especially. He didn't get a lot of easy shots, especially late in the game. Shot creation looks like it might be a little bit of a struggle for Houston, but there's a lot of things they can do well.