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Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 11:26 am
by wpmiller42
Nationally televised games this week (All times MT)

Mon 11/10
5:00 PM Washington Wizards @ Detroit Pistons, Peacock
8:30 PM Atlanta Hawks @ LA Clippers, NBA TV

Tue 11/11
6:00 PM Boston Celtics @ Philadelphia 76ers, Peacock
9:00 PM Denver Nuggets @ Golden State Warriors, Peacock/NBC

Wed 11/12

5:00 PM Orlando Magic @ NY Knicks, ESPN
7:30 PM LA Lakers @ OKC Thunder, ESPN

Thu 11/13
5:00 PM Toronto Raptors @ Cleveland Cavaliers, NBA TV

Fri 11/14
5:00 PM Miami Heat @ NY Knicks, Prime Video
7:30 PM Golden State Warriors @ San Antonio Spurs, Prime Video

Sat 11/15
3:00 PM Memphis Grizzlies @ Cleveland Cavaliers, NBA TV
6:00 PM LA Lakers @ Milwaukee Bucks, NBA TV

NBA News

Lenny Wilkens, a legend with the SuperSonics, Cavaliers, dies at 88

Richie Adubato, who coached New York Liberty to three WNBA Finals, dies at 87

Victor Oladipo opens up on learning to walk again and his quest to return to NBA

5 breakout role players

What the NBA Gambling Scandal Taught Us

From Tatum to Haliburton, why are Achilles injuries surging in the NBA?

There is a lot of light in the NBA

The League's Least Effective Scorers and What to Do About Them

Teaching young players how to win in today’s NBA is an arduous, tricky task

Predicting Every NBA Team's Best G League Prospect

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:24 pm
by Mori Chu
Thanks for the threads, wp!
Lenny Wilkens, a legend with the SuperSonics, Cavaliers, dies at 88
As a Seattle resident, sad to see Wilkens go. They made him a statue outside the now-defunct Sonics arena. A local hoops icon.
Victor Oladipo opens up on learning to walk again and his quest to return to NBA
Wild story. I don't think I remembered that he was that badly injured or had so far to come back.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 1:27 pm
by Superbone

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 6:57 pm
by ShelC
Ya don't say


Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:33 pm
by Mori Chu
Ty Lue said there is concern that water is going to be wet.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 8:57 pm
by ShelC

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:49 am
by Kryptonic
ShelC wrote:
Mon Nov 10, 2025 6:57 pm
Ya don't say

Just retire…. Give guys who wanna play a shot.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:44 am
by Mori Chu
Mavs are 3-8 and the outrage at Nico Harrison is not going away. Nor should it.


Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:51 am
by ShelC
It sucks because Nico will get fired and move onto some other high paying exec job while the fans and franchise have to deal with his decision for the next decade.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:55 am
by Mori Chu
I honestly think there should be more restrictions on trading and swapping future 1st round picks. It is BS that a bad GM/FO can ruin a franchise for nearly a decade in the future and the fans just have to eat it. Maybe limit it to the next 2-3 years picks are able to be traded but no more.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:28 am
by Superbone
Kryptonic wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:49 am
ShelC wrote:
Mon Nov 10, 2025 6:57 pm
Ya don't say

Just retire…. Give guys who wanna play a shot.
Yeah, but if they would only just let him be "that guy" again...

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:29 am
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:51 am
It sucks because Nico will get fired and move onto some other high paying exec job while the fans and franchise have to deal with his decision for the next decade.
According to The Athletic this morning, he's fired.
Mavericks fire Nico Harrison 9 months after Luka Dončić trade: Sources

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:51 am
by Uncle_Gene
ESPN reporting Nico Harrison has been fired.

I saw that coming a mile away. You don't trade Luka Doncic, plain and simple. You just got to the NBA Finals, then the very next season you trade him ? That made no sense.

I like Anthony Davis, but he's always injured,....... just like right now. Also, Davis is 6 years older than Luka and has probably two more years left in his prime. It was just a bad trade, plain and simple. I know they're still waiting on Kyrie Irving to come back from the ACL injury, but that team was built around Luka.

Once in a lifetime talent is hard to come by. The Mavericks had it, and let it go.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:03 am
by ShelC
The trade itself was dumbfounding but even if you feel it's necessary to trade Luka, you have to get back more than AD. Reaves is a must, plus at least three 1sts. Not AD, Max Christie and a Lakers 1st. Nico's ego couldn't handle Luka's star power in Dallas so he made the trade all about himself.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:53 am
by Superbone
Nico is not alone in the blame. Others in the organization obviously signed off on it. The whole thing is ridiculous to anybody and everybody that isn't Nico and the Mavs organization. From the mere idea of the trade to the ridiculous imbalance of the trade return.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:27 pm
by Mori Chu
One of the worst trades in NBA history. What trades were worse? Some of those 70s-80s Boston and LAL trades where they traded like some crusty old center for McHale and Parish or whatever, those might be worse, but Luka/AD has to be a top-5 worst trade in NBA history.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:34 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:27 pm
One of the worst trades in NBA history. What trades were worse? Some of those 70s-80s Boston and LAL trades where they traded like some crusty old center for McHale and Parish or whatever, those might be worse, but Luka/AD has to be a top-5 worst trade in NBA history.
I don't think there is any question it is #1. By a W I D E margin.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:35 pm
by Superbone
I'd much rather watch this than the skills competition. I remember watching Paul Westphal do this as a kid (I was the kid, not Westy.)


Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:39 pm
by BKinSJC
I think this is the worst ever. Most of the other trades that turned out to be really bad, it was because of the results of a draft pick, or something else that was not entirely foreseeable when the trade was made (like, say, SGA becoming an MVP-level player, to take a recent example). This was not that. Everybody with eyes and even a tiny amount of basketball sense could see that Luka was one of the five best players in the league, and he was still only 25 years old. He didn't have significant injury concerns. He had been the best player (by far) on a finals team just the postseason before the trade. It was completely inexplicable that a player on that level could be moved for the package that Dallas received.

I don't know if it's the *worst* trade in NBA history, but it's the one that makes the least sense. It was so completely out of left field that the conspiracy theories that have sprung up around it almost seem plausible. The guy that made that trade should have been fired immediately, and should never have work that involves evaluating basketball talent again.

Re: Around the NBA: Week 4 (11/10 - 11/16)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:52 pm
by Superbone
BKinSJC wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:39 pm
I think this is the worst ever. Most of the other trades that turned out to be really bad, it was because of the results of a draft pick, or something else that was not entirely foreseeable when the trade was made (like, say, SGA becoming an MVP-level player, to take a recent example). This was not that. Everybody with eyes and even a tiny amount of basketball sense could see that Luka was one of the five best players in the league, and he was still only 25 years old. He didn't have significant injury concerns. He had been the best player (by far) on a finals team just the postseason before the trade. It was completely inexplicable that a player on that level could be moved for the package that Dallas received.

I don't know if it's the *worst* trade in NBA history, but it's the one that makes the least sense. It was so completely out of left field that the conspiracy theories that have sprung up around it almost seem plausible. The guy that made that trade should have been fired immediately, and should never have work that involves evaluating basketball talent again.
The thing is, it's not one person in an organization that makes this kind of deal. A group of people signed off on this. They must have really hated Luka personally and I can understand that. But you can't let your emotions guide you.