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Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:09 pm
by EDC
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /28509215/
Bickley saying he would trade the twins if it was up to him. Is this the first time the local media has printed that? Wonder if the front office is distancing themselves from the twins. We will know for sure if Coro prints something about it soon.
I don't get the push to have the Suns pick up the optional year on coach a year early. Just no need to paint yourself into a corner. Jeff is fine now but who knows what will happen or who will be available.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:45 pm
by Superbone
Yeah, interesting article. The Suns need a makeover much like what they got at the beginning of two years ago. They had so much potential after year one of Hornacek/McDonough and then took a 50% step back last year with the Dragic travesty and team chemistry issues. There's no question that Marcus should have gotten a much bigger reaction from the franchise for his outburst on coach. The team should have suspended him about 5 games probably. The twins dynamic is hurting the team not helping it. Especially after their off-court transgression (allegedly) during last season.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:53 pm
by carey
EDC wrote:
I don't get the push to have the Suns pick up the optional year on coach a year early. Just no need to paint yourself into a corner. Jeff is fine now but who knows what will happen or who will be available.
In general players don't play hard for lame duck coaches. So they should either back him or let him go. Rarely do you ever see coaches play out the final year of their deal in full.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:38 pm
by SDC
EDC wrote:http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /28509215/
Bickley saying he would trade the twins if it was up to him. Is this the first time the local media has printed that? Wonder if the front office is distancing themselves from the twins. We will know for sure if Coro prints something about it soon.
I don't get the push to have the Suns pick up the optional year on coach a year early. Just no need to paint yourself into a corner. Jeff is fine now but who knows what will happen or who will be available.
sorry, but the suns are trying to make the playoffs next year. and mcdo is going to resign knight.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:50 am
by Shabazz
The Suns were set on a different course at the start of the previous season, when the team pinned its future on Stephon Marbury for what was the largest pro sports contract in Arizona history. Marbury was under contract for $105 million over six years after signing a four-year extension three weeks before the 2003-04 season opener. Only a disappointing Suns start and the Knicks' recently hired president of basketball operations, Thomas, could undo it.
"It was more about how can we get to the top of the heap, how can we contend?" said Colangelo, who was the Suns GM. "Being in the middle of the pack is not where you want to be in this league. We felt like we were going to be competitive but not get to the upper echelon of competition unless we did something drastic. We decided to knock down a few walls."
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /28417913/
From Coro's retrospective on the 04-05 Suns. Hopefully this regime can see the same writing on the wall, see how far we are from being a relevant team in the West and try and make some moves (like dealing Bledsoe and/or the twins) that better position us for the future.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:24 pm
by Superbone
I hope so. The current path isn't working.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:24 pm
by carey
So what do you want to do? Trade everyone away and bottom out? I don't want to sit through 3 years of being the 76ers.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:50 pm
by Indy
carey wrote:So what do you want to do? Trade everyone away and bottom out? I don't want to sit through 3 years of being the 76ers.
As opposed to repeating 96-2000? No thank you.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:23 pm
by Superbone
carey wrote:So what do you want to do? Trade everyone away and bottom out? I don't want to sit through 3 years of being the 76ers.
You want sit through another three years like last year? Shipping out Bledsoe and the twins would be a good start. We don't have to bottom out. Just get some quality players here that want to play as a team.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:33 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote:carey wrote:So what do you want to do? Trade everyone away and bottom out? I don't want to sit through 3 years of being the 76ers.
You want sit through another three years like last year? Shipping out Bledsoe and the twins would be a good start. We don't have to bottom out. Just get some quality players here that want to play as a team.
Where do we get these players without a full rebuild? Patchwork free agency and hoping to hit our draft picks?
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:45 pm
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Superbone wrote:carey wrote:So what do you want to do? Trade everyone away and bottom out? I don't want to sit through 3 years of being the 76ers.
You want sit through another three years like last year? Shipping out Bledsoe and the twins would be a good start. We don't have to bottom out. Just get some quality players here that want to play as a team.
Where do we get these players without a full rebuild? Patchwork free agency and hoping to hit our draft picks?
That's for McMiracle to figure out.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:30 pm
by TOO
Its gonna take a McMiracle to get this right.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:56 pm
by SDC
Superbone wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Superbone wrote:carey wrote:So what do you want to do? Trade everyone away and bottom out? I don't want to sit through 3 years of being the 76ers.
You want sit through another three years like last year? Shipping out Bledsoe and the twins would be a good start. We don't have to bottom out. Just get some quality players here that want to play as a team.
Where do we get these players without a full rebuild? Patchwork free agency and hoping to hit our draft picks?
That's for McMiracle to figure out.
the first action should be to fire the person responsible for this mess. if he's lucky, ainge will hire him back.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:59 pm
by SDC
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Its gonna take a McMiracle to get this right.
Unoriginalnon-original is in the first stages of the kubler-ross model.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:36 pm
by carey
SDC wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Its gonna take a McMiracle to get this right.
Unoriginalnon-original is in the first stages of the kubler-ross model.
Enough with the making fun of his name bit or people will start trying to figure out what SDC stands for and it probably won't be funny.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:49 pm
by carey
Did you delete your post Bobster?
Look, I don't care if we have crappy names for players. That's fine and is quite common in sports. Just don't do it to your fellow posters. Cool? Cool.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:46 am
by TOO
carey wrote:SDC wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Its gonna take a McMiracle to get this right.
Unoriginalnon-original is in the first stages of the kubler-ross model.
Enough with the making fun of his name bit or people will start trying to figure out what SDC stands for and it probably won't be funny.
I can't see his drivel unless it's quoted, so let him call me whatever he likes.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:53 am
by The Bobster
carey wrote:Did you delete your post Bobster?
Look, I don't care if we have crappy names for players. That's fine and is quite common in sports. Just don't do it to your fellow posters. Cool? Cool.
Yeah, I rethought it right after I hit "submit".
I'm not really big on using "crappy names" for the players unless their personal conduct is an issue (I have no problem calling the Morrii "morons"). Just not liking how somebody plays basketball or does his coaching or front office job isn't a good enough reason to be disrespectful. We can be critical and still act like adults IMO.
Although I'm sure there have been instances in the past where I haven't lived up to that myself!
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:24 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
The Bobster wrote:carey wrote:Did you delete your post Bobster?
Look, I don't care if we have crappy names for players. That's fine and is quite common in sports. Just don't do it to your fellow posters. Cool? Cool.
Yeah, I rethought it right after I hit "submit".
I'm not really big on using "crappy names" for the players unless their personal conduct is an issue (I have no problem calling the Morrii "morons"). Just not liking how somebody plays basketball or does his coaching or front office job isn't a good enough reason to be disrespectful. We can be critical and still act like adults IMO.
Although I'm sure there have been instances in the past where I haven't lived up to that myself!
+ 1 !!!
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:05 am
by Wally_West
https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/608320016015101952
https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/608321006948782080