Mori Chu wrote:Swing,
I mostly wrote my thoughts in the other thread in the Suns/NBA area. I guess what I'll add in this thread is:
* Yes, that is a rude PM that you quoted from carey. But PMs are supposed to be just that: private. If you don't like talking to carey, put him on Ignore or something. Posting somebody's PMs in a thread strikes me as kind of bush league. They are called private messages for a reason. I am actually a lot less bothered by something rude that somebody says to someone else in a PM than if it's said in the public forum, out there for everyone to see and making everybody else's experience unpleasant. I expect carey to be a decent guy in the threads since he's a mod, but I don't care nearly as much what he sends in PMs. If it truly got out of hand, maybe, but I don't think this is over that line.
* I know you and AIG have history. But he wrote you a lengthy, heartfelt message of apology. I honestly don't know how it could possibly have been more conciliatory and decent. And you summarily rejected it. It makes me sad because I have to hope that people can eventually let old bad blood go and let bygones be bygones. People grow and change over time; lord knows I have. I was making crude posts and putting dildos in Frank Johnson's hand back in the day. I'm almost 35 now; I'm not the same kid any more. AIG is a young dude and he wrote you quite a nice mea culpa, admitting that he had done you wrong, saying that he's grown and changed since then, and sincerely wanting to make amends. You will rarely get better than that in your life from an old foe. I wish you'd have reacted differently to it.
* Despite all of the above, I consider the current ban situation a temporary necessity and hope we can get back to normal soon. I still feel that if anybody has a problem with anybody, the Ignore list is a good way to avoid having to deal with them.
That was the first time I quoted a PM, but, considering carey's 'innocent victim' ploy, I felt it was warranted that his unapologetic remorselessness be exposed. And, what's consistently being glossed over here is that carey was the one who *instigated* the attacks - I only stepped in after carey's "can't fucking read" lob towards Aztec Sunsfan. That's why carey was "piled on" by myself, Phoenix219 and Aztec Sunsfan (though the latter was defending himself) - why was there no sympathy towards myself at the old site when I was regularly piled on by 3-5 people in the Politics section? Uh, no - when you're the instigator, you waived any right to victim status. It's nothing short of hypocritical that carey skates on this - frankly, it reeks of Robert Horry circa 2007.
Concerning AIG, I've done some mulling over that and, while I can find it in my heart to forgive him for his unbelievably offensive personal attacks against me at the old board, know that I cannot and will not ever trust him again - there's absolutely no way I or anyone conceivably could. Fake or not, I accept his apology - but, he'll be on my 'ignore' list in every aspect from here forward. I will not address him in any way under any circumstances and I hope he will do the same. But, know this: If AIG reverts in any way to his old form, I will not just sit back and take it - nor should I be expected to. I realize that people change as we age, but there's also a reason the saying "the more things change, the more things stay the same." exists. I will let bygones be bygones, but I'll always be on-guard concerning AIG and have been for a few years now - in short, the olive branch is accepted, but will be kept beyond arm's reach in my house. No contact whatsoever and everything will be fine.
On a personal note, concerning 2 inquiries whether something's happening with me, yes, there is and has been some bad stuff going on with me recently - it's been one of the top 2 wretched July's on record for me and I'll leave it at that. Let me make it clear: I'm neither looking for sympathy nor trying to justify my conduct - I'm responding to inquiries by both Superbone & Mori and nothing more.
Regarding my conduct, again, I regret that the thread escalated such, but I'm at peace with my own actions towards carey that night - Aztec Sunsfan had neither warranted carey's response nor even had a history on this or the old board to warrant such an attack. Given the chance, I'd respond the same way in the same situation.
On that note, I'll end with this: I've always tried to be civil towards other posters here and live by the Golden Rule, but, for the umpteenth time, I will also respond in kind when rudeness and attacks are lobbed my way.
And, with that, I'm done - honesty is always the best policy and I will await the decision whether I'm to return to regular posting or not. I haven't stuck around for nearly 15 years because I hate this place.....