Around the League: The Off-season
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It's possible that Chriss could have thrived in a healthier org than ours. But it's also possible that he's a knucklehead who would have washed out. A lot of our guys (e.g. Bender) feel to me like they would have been great on the Spurs. Wouldn't Pop have turned Bender into a deadly weapon? But when I picture a guy like Chriss on the Spurs, I don't think they would have turned him into an asset. I think Pop would have gotten tired of his attitude and BS and they would have gotten rid of him. I don't know if he can find a role on the Warriors, and maybe he'll stick in the league after all. But I have not seen anything from him so far to indicate that the awful Suns org is to blame for his failures in the NBA.
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Suns are partially to blame, sure. But Chriss didn't do his part either. The Suns didn't force feed him In and Out Burger over the summer so that he came in out of shape. Chriss could have done much better as a Sun than he did if he would have done things differently. I'll be the first one to throw shade at the franchise but it's not all on them.
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Well the warriors waived their starting SF to get him on the roster. He’s been very good for them in preseason. As a warriors fan, I’m sure you’ll see it soon.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:57 amIt's possible that Chriss could have thrived in a healthier org than ours. But it's also possible that he's a knucklehead who would have washed out. A lot of our guys (e.g. Bender) feel to me like they would have been great on the Spurs. Wouldn't Pop have turned Bender into a deadly weapon? But when I picture a guy like Chriss on the Spurs, I don't think they would have turned him into an asset. I think Pop would have gotten tired of his attitude and BS and they would have gotten rid of him. I don't know if he can find a role on the Warriors, and maybe he'll stick in the league after all. But I have not seen anything from him so far to indicate that the awful Suns org is to blame for his failures in the NBA.
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Preseason stats -
Warren, IND - 22.4 Min, .476 FG%, .500 3P%, .889 FT%, 2.2 Reb, 2.2 Ast, 13.8 Pts
Holmes, SAC - 19.7 Min, .824 FG%, .000 3P%, .667 FT%, 5.2 Reb, 0.5 Ast, 8.5 Pts
Bender, MIL - 15.0 Min, .607 FG%, .538 3P%, .846 FT%, 4.8 Reb, 2.0 Ast, 10.4 Pts
Chriss, GSW - 22.6 Min, .609 FG%, .200 3P%, .900 FT%, 8.0 Reb, 3.0 Ast, 9.5 Pts
Anderson, HOU - 10.9 Min, .364 FG%, .375 3P%, .000 FT%, 2.7 Reb, 1.3 Ast, 3.7 Pts
What was Houston expecting from Anderson when they signed him?
Warren, IND - 22.4 Min, .476 FG%, .500 3P%, .889 FT%, 2.2 Reb, 2.2 Ast, 13.8 Pts
Holmes, SAC - 19.7 Min, .824 FG%, .000 3P%, .667 FT%, 5.2 Reb, 0.5 Ast, 8.5 Pts
Bender, MIL - 15.0 Min, .607 FG%, .538 3P%, .846 FT%, 4.8 Reb, 2.0 Ast, 10.4 Pts
Chriss, GSW - 22.6 Min, .609 FG%, .200 3P%, .900 FT%, 8.0 Reb, 3.0 Ast, 9.5 Pts
Anderson, HOU - 10.9 Min, .364 FG%, .375 3P%, .000 FT%, 2.7 Reb, 1.3 Ast, 3.7 Pts
What was Houston expecting from Anderson when they signed him?
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Re: Around the League: The Off-season
The same thing McD was expecting? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.The Bobster wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:12 pmPreseason stats -
Warren, IND - 22.4 Min, .476 FG%, .500 3P%, .889 FT%, 2.2 Reb, 2.2 Ast, 13.8 Pts
Holmes, SAC - 19.7 Min, .824 FG%, .000 3P%, .667 FT%, 5.2 Reb, 0.5 Ast, 8.5 Pts
Bender, MIL - 15.0 Min, .607 FG%, .538 3P%, .846 FT%, 4.8 Reb, 2.0 Ast, 10.4 Pts
Chriss, GSW - 22.6 Min, .609 FG%, .200 3P%, .900 FT%, 8.0 Reb, 3.0 Ast, 9.5 Pts
Anderson, HOU - 10.9 Min, .364 FG%, .375 3P%, .000 FT%, 2.7 Reb, 1.3 Ast, 3.7 Pts
What was Houston expecting from Anderson when they signed him?
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Shots fired haha (we know you don't)Split T wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:49 pmWell the warriors waived their starting SF to get him on the roster. He’s been very good for them in preseason. As a warriors fan, I’m sure you’ll see it soon.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:57 amIt's possible that Chriss could have thrived in a healthier org than ours. But it's also possible that he's a knucklehead who would have washed out. A lot of our guys (e.g. Bender) feel to me like they would have been great on the Spurs. Wouldn't Pop have turned Bender into a deadly weapon? But when I picture a guy like Chriss on the Spurs, I don't think they would have turned him into an asset. I think Pop would have gotten tired of his attitude and BS and they would have gotten rid of him. I don't know if he can find a role on the Warriors, and maybe he'll stick in the league after all. But I have not seen anything from him so far to indicate that the awful Suns org is to blame for his failures in the NBA.
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First TJ then Draymond and now Gortat have bad words for our beloved team. I guess its poo on the Suns week
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Gortat too now? You going to make me search for it?Democritus wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:38 pmFirst TJ then Draymond and now Gortat have bad words for our beloved team. I guess its poo on the Suns week
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Alright, here it is:
Says we're a "brothel on wheels". Not in the literal sense.
https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/10/20/ma ... on-wheels/
Let's hope Sarver really has learned his lesson by bringing in Jones and Williams and letting go of the reigns because what Gortat said fits our past like a glove.
Says we're a "brothel on wheels". Not in the literal sense.
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Let's hope Sarver really has learned his lesson by bringing in Jones and Williams and letting go of the reigns because what Gortat said fits our past like a glove.
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Of course not Bone...hereSuperbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:26 pmGortat too now? You going to make me search for it?Democritus wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:38 pmFirst TJ then Draymond and now Gortat have bad words for our beloved team. I guess its poo on the Suns week
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Thanks, Demo. I got a little trigger happy.Democritus wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:30 pmOf course not Bone...hereSuperbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:26 pmGortat too now? You going to make me search for it?Democritus wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:38 pmFirst TJ then Draymond and now Gortat have bad words for our beloved team. I guess its poo on the Suns week
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It's interesting that Gortat thinks it's still the same, even though the front office and coaching staff is almost completely different. I don't think that Monty would sign up to be the Suns coach if that was really the case. At least that's the feeling I get on the type of person that Monty is. Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is.
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Huh? Are you seriously going speculate that based on Gortat's statement? Of course Gortat was referring to when he played here.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:59 pmIt's interesting that Gortat thinks it's still the same, even though the front office and coaching staff is almost completely different. I don't think that Monty would sign up to be the Suns coach if that was really the case. At least that's the feeling I get on the type of person that Monty is. Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is.
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He said that it still is, meaning current tense. What am I supposed to think? It's not like he's out of touch with the entire NBA, including the Suns since he's not in the league right now.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:01 pmHuh? Are you seriously going speculate that based on Gortat's statement? Of course Gortat was referring to when he played here.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:59 pmIt's interesting that Gortat thinks it's still the same, even though the front office and coaching staff is almost completely different. I don't think that Monty would sign up to be the Suns coach if that was really the case. At least that's the feeling I get on the type of person that Monty is. Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is.
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That is a HUGE leap to put that on Monty based on Gortat's statement. How would he have such an intimate knowledge of our front office after being away from the team for so long. Come on, In2, you're better than this.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:06 pmHe said that it still is, meaning current tense. What am I supposed to think? It's not like he's out of touch with the entire NBA, including the Suns since he's not in the league right now.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:01 pmHuh? Are you seriously going speculate that based on Gortat's statement? Of course Gortat was referring to when he played here.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:59 pmIt's interesting that Gortat thinks it's still the same, even though the front office and coaching staff is almost completely different. I don't think that Monty would sign up to be the Suns coach if that was really the case. At least that's the feeling I get on the type of person that Monty is. Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is.
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How is that a HUGE leap? He said, "I think it hasn't changed...". I'm pretty sure it has changed too, but NBA guys have ties to teams even after they leave, no?Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:13 pmThat is a HUGE leap to put that on Monty based on Gortat's statement. How would he have such an intimate knowledge of our front office after being away from the team for so long. Come on, In2, you're better than this.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:06 pmHe said that it still is, meaning current tense. What am I supposed to think? It's not like he's out of touch with the entire NBA, including the Suns since he's not in the league right now.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:01 pmHuh? Are you seriously going speculate that based on Gortat's statement? Of course Gortat was referring to when he played here.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:59 pmIt's interesting that Gortat thinks it's still the same, even though the front office and coaching staff is almost completely different. I don't think that Monty would sign up to be the Suns coach if that was really the case. At least that's the feeling I get on the type of person that Monty is. Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is.
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The Monty speculation is what I take issue with: "Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is."In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:15 pmHow is that a HUGE leap? He said, "I think it hasn't changed...". I'm pretty sure it has changed too, but NBA guys have ties to teams even after they leave, no?Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:13 pmThat is a HUGE leap to put that on Monty based on Gortat's statement. How would he have such an intimate knowledge of our front office after being away from the team for so long. Come on, In2, you're better than this.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:06 pmHe said that it still is, meaning current tense. What am I supposed to think? It's not like he's out of touch with the entire NBA, including the Suns since he's not in the league right now.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:01 pmHuh? Are you seriously going speculate that based on Gortat's statement? Of course Gortat was referring to when he played here.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:59 pmIt's interesting that Gortat thinks it's still the same, even though the front office and coaching staff is almost completely different. I don't think that Monty would sign up to be the Suns coach if that was really the case. At least that's the feeling I get on the type of person that Monty is. Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is.
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I have no reason to think he's not, and you're right, it's not fair to even speculate that he isn't based on Marcin "Stone Hands" Gortat.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:17 pmThe Monty speculation is what I take issue with: "Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is."In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:15 pmHow is that a HUGE leap? He said, "I think it hasn't changed...". I'm pretty sure it has changed too, but NBA guys have ties to teams even after they leave, no?Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:13 pmThat is a HUGE leap to put that on Monty based on Gortat's statement. How would he have such an intimate knowledge of our front office after being away from the team for so long. Come on, In2, you're better than this.
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That's all I was getting at. Thank you.In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:38 pmI have no reason to think he's not, and you're right, it's not fair to even speculate that he isn't based on Marcin "Stone Hands" Gortat.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:17 pmThe Monty speculation is what I take issue with: "Maybe he's not the man of character that we all think he is."In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:15 pmHow is that a HUGE leap? He said, "I think it hasn't changed...". I'm pretty sure it has changed too, but NBA guys have ties to teams even after they leave, no?
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