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The number of intelligent people duped into believe Q stuff is mind-boggling.

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Just FYI on the Pepe the Frog avatar/graphic you see being used on the internet and social by certain accounts

https://www.adl.org/education/reference ... e-the-frog

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About Pepe the frog, It started out as a troll, because people got all upset about it. I imagine that many people hijacked it for evil, but most did not. Like anything, if someone doesn't like it, they will claim it's meant for evil and that all people use it for evil. It's ridiculous. It would be like if someone started to claim that using an Indiana Jones avatar is all of a sudden a racist trope. We know it's not, but people are going to see whatever they want in anything.
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I would just rather not get my info from an account with Pepe the Frog as the avatar. Would seem dubious. That's just me tho.

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ShelC wrote:
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I would just rather not get my info from an account with Pepe the Frog as the avatar. Would seem dubious. That's just me tho.
same here. part of my effort to lean away from racism.

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In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.

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https://www.mediaite.com/news/smartmati ... ni-powell/
Fox News has engaged in a concerted disinformation campaign against Smartmatic. Fox News told its millions of viewers and readers that Smartmatic was founded by Hugo Chávez, that its software was designed to fix elections, and that Smartmatic conspired with others to defraud the American people and fix the 2020 U.S. election by changing, inflating, and deleting votes. While Fox News holds itself out as a trusted news source, it has continually and repeatedly published demonstrably false information and defamatory statements about Smartmatic. Fox News used its anchors and on-air guests, including Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, to spread lies about a company that had absolutely nothing to do with the voting that took place in areas at the heart of the “conspiracies” discussed following the 2020 U.S. election.
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Nodack wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:43 am
https://www.mediaite.com/news/smartmati ... ni-powell/
Fox News has engaged in a concerted disinformation campaign against Smartmatic. Fox News told its millions of viewers and readers that Smartmatic was founded by Hugo Chávez, that its software was designed to fix elections, and that Smartmatic conspired with others to defraud the American people and fix the 2020 U.S. election by changing, inflating, and deleting votes. While Fox News holds itself out as a trusted news source, it has continually and repeatedly published demonstrably false information and defamatory statements about Smartmatic. Fox News used its anchors and on-air guests, including Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, to spread lies about a company that had absolutely nothing to do with the voting that took place in areas at the heart of the “conspiracies” discussed following the 2020 U.S. election.
This was aired on CNN in 2006.
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https://www.smartmatic.com/us/smartmatic-fact-checked/
Following the 2020 US election, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories have exploded across social media and other online outlets. Do not be conned by it. Check anything you read online with credible sources before you believe it or repost it.

Smartmatic’s Credibility is Our Most Important Asset
We know that to be credible and trusted partners to governments and election officials we need to be transparent and forthright. Here are the facts about our company and our history. No spin. No polish.

Smartmatic’s software was developed by our own engineers to do three things: accurately process votes, keep them secure and facilitate audits. That’s it. There is no other agenda. Our technology has been proven in audited elections for almost 20 years.
Smartmatic election technologies and services have been authenticated by independent third-party validators, including the US Election Assistance Commission, the State of California, PriceWaterhouseCoopers and SLI Global. They have also been validated by world-renowned institutions such as the Carter Center, the United Nations, the Organization of American States, and the European Union.
Smartmatic has no ties to governments or political parties. Governments are clients with whom we do business – just like every other commercial entity – but we do not have any alliances, relationships or “deals” with any politician, political organization or government. Smartmatic’s founders and employees adhere to a strict ethics code that, among other things, prohibits them from making political donations.
Two of the founders, Antonio Mugica and Roger Piñate, run the company as CEO and President, respectively. The majority of company shares are held by the Mugica and Piñate families. The remaining shares (less than 20%) are held by employees and angel investors.
George Soros is not one of those angel investors mentioned above. Mr. Soros has no ownership interest in Smartmatic. He’s not on the Board, nor is he employed by Smartmatic. He never has been. That’s been proven time and again.
The founders of Smartmatic were born in Venezuela. The company, however, was founded in Boca Raton, Florida in 2000 and still maintains its US base there. Tesla, Procter & Gamble, Kohl’s, TJ Maxx, Houzz.com, Google and many other American companies were founded by people born outside the US. A US company is still a US company, regardless of where its founders or shareholders happened to be born.
There are no ties between Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic – plain and simple. No ownership ties, no software leasing, no business at all between them. In 2009, (that’s more than a decade ago) Smartmatic licensed scanning machines from Dominion for use in The Philippines for a Smartmatic election project. Our one contract with Dominion was short-lived and ended in a lawsuit. That was the first and last time that Smartmatic and Dominion tried to do business together.
Smartmatic has only owned one election company in the US, Sequoia Voting systems. Smartmatic sold the company in 2007 to Sequoia’s management team. More than three years later Sequoia was bought by Dominion Voting Systems. Smartmatic had no part in Sequoia’s acquisition by Dominion.
Smartmatic technology was used only in Los Angeles County, California in the 2020 election. The system we provided to LA County does not count, tabulate or store votes.
The company has not closed any offices since the 2020 US election and all our employees are safe and sound, and still hard at work. Many are working from home because there’s a global pandemic and we care about them.
Smartmatic does not have any operations in Venezuela. We did election projects in Venezuela from 2004 to 2017, and Smartmatic’s equipment, software and people all performed successfully every time. In 2017, our technology helped prove that the government was reporting false turnout numbers – so we blew the whistle on them – and stopped doing business there.
Statement from the Department of Homeland Security
This statement from the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), which oversees U.S. election security, provides expert assessment of the 2020 US election from a cybersecurity standpoint. "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

Fact Checks About Smartmatic by Third-Party Sources
Here are some credible sources that are doing their own, independent fact checking. Read what they have to say.

The Washington Post Nov. 16

Giuliani’s fantasy parade of false voter-fraud claims

Reuters News Services Nov. 20

Smartmatic CEO is not on Biden’s team, Smartmatic software is not on Dominion voting machines

Associated Press Nov. 19

Trump legal team’s batch of false vote claims

Associated Press Nov. 17

Smartmatic does not own Dominion Voting Systems

CATO Institute Nov. 20

Voting Machine Conspiracy Theories Harm U.S. Cybersecurity

PolitiFact Nov. 19

Trump lawyer falsely claims voting technology companies were created for changing election results

Resources for Fact Checking
Rumor vs. Reality Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency’s Q&A document with links

www.factcheck.org/tag/2020-election A nonpartisan, nonprofit consumer advocate for voters by the Annenberg Public Policy Center

www.politifact.com/2020 A nonpartisan fact-checking website owned by the Poynter Institute, a nonprofit school for journalists

https://apnews.com/hub/election-2020 Associated Press’ election fact check site

www.reuters.com/fact-check Reuters News Service fact check site
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Nodack wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:15 pm
https://www.smartmatic.com/us/smartmatic-fact-checked/
Following the 2020 US election, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories have exploded across social media and other online outlets. Do not be conned by it. Check anything you read online with credible sources before you believe it or repost it.

Smartmatic’s Credibility is Our Most Important Asset
We know that to be credible and trusted partners to governments and election officials we need to be transparent and forthright. Here are the facts about our company and our history. No spin. No polish.

Smartmatic’s software was developed by our own engineers to do three things: accurately process votes, keep them secure and facilitate audits. That’s it. There is no other agenda. Our technology has been proven in audited elections for almost 20 years.
Smartmatic election technologies and services have been authenticated by independent third-party validators, including the US Election Assistance Commission, the State of California, PriceWaterhouseCoopers and SLI Global. They have also been validated by world-renowned institutions such as the Carter Center, the United Nations, the Organization of American States, and the European Union.
Smartmatic has no ties to governments or political parties. Governments are clients with whom we do business – just like every other commercial entity – but we do not have any alliances, relationships or “deals” with any politician, political organization or government. Smartmatic’s founders and employees adhere to a strict ethics code that, among other things, prohibits them from making political donations.
Two of the founders, Antonio Mugica and Roger Piñate, run the company as CEO and President, respectively. The majority of company shares are held by the Mugica and Piñate families. The remaining shares (less than 20%) are held by employees and angel investors.
George Soros is not one of those angel investors mentioned above. Mr. Soros has no ownership interest in Smartmatic. He’s not on the Board, nor is he employed by Smartmatic. He never has been. That’s been proven time and again.
The founders of Smartmatic were born in Venezuela. The company, however, was founded in Boca Raton, Florida in 2000 and still maintains its US base there. Tesla, Procter & Gamble, Kohl’s, TJ Maxx, Houzz.com, Google and many other American companies were founded by people born outside the US. A US company is still a US company, regardless of where its founders or shareholders happened to be born.
There are no ties between Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic – plain and simple. No ownership ties, no software leasing, no business at all between them. In 2009, (that’s more than a decade ago) Smartmatic licensed scanning machines from Dominion for use in The Philippines for a Smartmatic election project. Our one contract with Dominion was short-lived and ended in a lawsuit. That was the first and last time that Smartmatic and Dominion tried to do business together.
Smartmatic has only owned one election company in the US, Sequoia Voting systems. Smartmatic sold the company in 2007 to Sequoia’s management team. More than three years later Sequoia was bought by Dominion Voting Systems. Smartmatic had no part in Sequoia’s acquisition by Dominion.
Smartmatic technology was used only in Los Angeles County, California in the 2020 election. The system we provided to LA County does not count, tabulate or store votes.
The company has not closed any offices since the 2020 US election and all our employees are safe and sound, and still hard at work. Many are working from home because there’s a global pandemic and we care about them.
Smartmatic does not have any operations in Venezuela. We did election projects in Venezuela from 2004 to 2017, and Smartmatic’s equipment, software and people all performed successfully every time. In 2017, our technology helped prove that the government was reporting false turnout numbers – so we blew the whistle on them – and stopped doing business there.
Statement from the Department of Homeland Security
This statement from the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), which oversees U.S. election security, provides expert assessment of the 2020 US election from a cybersecurity standpoint. "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

Fact Checks About Smartmatic by Third-Party Sources
Here are some credible sources that are doing their own, independent fact checking. Read what they have to say.

The Washington Post Nov. 16

Giuliani’s fantasy parade of false voter-fraud claims

Reuters News Services Nov. 20

Smartmatic CEO is not on Biden’s team, Smartmatic software is not on Dominion voting machines

Associated Press Nov. 19

Trump legal team’s batch of false vote claims

Associated Press Nov. 17

Smartmatic does not own Dominion Voting Systems

CATO Institute Nov. 20

Voting Machine Conspiracy Theories Harm U.S. Cybersecurity

PolitiFact Nov. 19

Trump lawyer falsely claims voting technology companies were created for changing election results

Resources for Fact Checking
Rumor vs. Reality Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency’s Q&A document with links

www.factcheck.org/tag/2020-election A nonpartisan, nonprofit consumer advocate for voters by the Annenberg Public Policy Center

www.politifact.com/2020 A nonpartisan fact-checking website owned by the Poynter Institute, a nonprofit school for journalists

https://apnews.com/hub/election-2020 Associated Press’ election fact check site

www.reuters.com/fact-check Reuters News Service fact check site
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Hashed passwords are extremely hard to decrypt without the key. Still, these shouldn't be available online, and shouldn't be connected to the internet.
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Georgia recounted their ballots by hand and it didn’t change the results. Doesn’t that prove the dominion machines weren’t rigged?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 335864002/

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Split T wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:44 pm
Georgia recounted their ballots by hand and it didn’t change the results. Doesn’t that prove the dominion machines weren’t rigged?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 335864002/
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In2ition wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:22 pm
Nodack wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:15 pm
https://www.smartmatic.com/us/smartmatic-fact-checked/
Following the 2020 US election, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories have exploded across social media and other online outlets. Do not be conned by it. Check anything you read online with credible sources before you believe it or repost it.

Smartmatic’s Credibility is Our Most Important Asset
We know that to be credible and trusted partners to governments and election officials we need to be transparent and forthright. Here are the facts about our company and our history. No spin. No polish.

Smartmatic’s software was developed by our own engineers to do three things: accurately process votes, keep them secure and facilitate audits. That’s it. There is no other agenda. Our technology has been proven in audited elections for almost 20 years.
Smartmatic election technologies and services have been authenticated by independent third-party validators, including the US Election Assistance Commission, the State of California, PriceWaterhouseCoopers and SLI Global. They have also been validated by world-renowned institutions such as the Carter Center, the United Nations, the Organization of American States, and the European Union.
Smartmatic has no ties to governments or political parties. Governments are clients with whom we do business – just like every other commercial entity – but we do not have any alliances, relationships or “deals” with any politician, political organization or government. Smartmatic’s founders and employees adhere to a strict ethics code that, among other things, prohibits them from making political donations.
Two of the founders, Antonio Mugica and Roger Piñate, run the company as CEO and President, respectively. The majority of company shares are held by the Mugica and Piñate families. The remaining shares (less than 20%) are held by employees and angel investors.
George Soros is not one of those angel investors mentioned above. Mr. Soros has no ownership interest in Smartmatic. He’s not on the Board, nor is he employed by Smartmatic. He never has been. That’s been proven time and again.
The founders of Smartmatic were born in Venezuela. The company, however, was founded in Boca Raton, Florida in 2000 and still maintains its US base there. Tesla, Procter & Gamble, Kohl’s, TJ Maxx, Houzz.com, Google and many other American companies were founded by people born outside the US. A US company is still a US company, regardless of where its founders or shareholders happened to be born.
There are no ties between Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic – plain and simple. No ownership ties, no software leasing, no business at all between them. In 2009, (that’s more than a decade ago) Smartmatic licensed scanning machines from Dominion for use in The Philippines for a Smartmatic election project. Our one contract with Dominion was short-lived and ended in a lawsuit. That was the first and last time that Smartmatic and Dominion tried to do business together.
Smartmatic has only owned one election company in the US, Sequoia Voting systems. Smartmatic sold the company in 2007 to Sequoia’s management team. More than three years later Sequoia was bought by Dominion Voting Systems. Smartmatic had no part in Sequoia’s acquisition by Dominion.
Smartmatic technology was used only in Los Angeles County, California in the 2020 election. The system we provided to LA County does not count, tabulate or store votes.
The company has not closed any offices since the 2020 US election and all our employees are safe and sound, and still hard at work. Many are working from home because there’s a global pandemic and we care about them.
Smartmatic does not have any operations in Venezuela. We did election projects in Venezuela from 2004 to 2017, and Smartmatic’s equipment, software and people all performed successfully every time. In 2017, our technology helped prove that the government was reporting false turnout numbers – so we blew the whistle on them – and stopped doing business there.
Statement from the Department of Homeland Security
This statement from the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), which oversees U.S. election security, provides expert assessment of the 2020 US election from a cybersecurity standpoint. "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

Fact Checks About Smartmatic by Third-Party Sources
Here are some credible sources that are doing their own, independent fact checking. Read what they have to say.

The Washington Post Nov. 16

Giuliani’s fantasy parade of false voter-fraud claims

Reuters News Services Nov. 20

Smartmatic CEO is not on Biden’s team, Smartmatic software is not on Dominion voting machines

Associated Press Nov. 19

Trump legal team’s batch of false vote claims

Associated Press Nov. 17

Smartmatic does not own Dominion Voting Systems

CATO Institute Nov. 20

Voting Machine Conspiracy Theories Harm U.S. Cybersecurity

PolitiFact Nov. 19

Trump lawyer falsely claims voting technology companies were created for changing election results

Resources for Fact Checking
Rumor vs. Reality Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency’s Q&A document with links

www.factcheck.org/tag/2020-election A nonpartisan, nonprofit consumer advocate for voters by the Annenberg Public Policy Center

www.politifact.com/2020 A nonpartisan fact-checking website owned by the Poynter Institute, a nonprofit school for journalists

https://apnews.com/hub/election-2020 Associated Press’ election fact check site

www.reuters.com/fact-check Reuters News Service fact check site
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Jake Tapper wants to thank Trump. Hear his message:

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I still haven't heard an answer to: Why are random Twitter people being cited here as though they are credible sources of information and evidence?

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Split T wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:44 pm
Georgia recounted their ballots by hand and it didn’t change the results. Doesn’t that prove the dominion machines weren’t rigged?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 335864002/
Idk, if they aren't verifying signatures with their envelops and against their voter roles, how is that not just counting the same invalid ballots? Also, how many of the ballots are recounted? If you insert 10%(this is just arbitrary number) fraudulent ballots and you just recount those same ballots, what changes? Nothing changes. I believe that they have to do signature verification against the voter roles on these mail in ballots. The verification that they did, didn't actually verify anything, and it just put them all through.

BTW,they found a warehouse of illegally printed ballots that were shipped in from AZ in GA. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1 ... ingbuttons
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In2ition wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:02 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:44 pm
Georgia recounted their ballots by hand and it didn’t change the results. Doesn’t that prove the dominion machines weren’t rigged?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 335864002/
Idk, if they aren't verifying signatures with their envelops and against their voter roles, how is that not just counting the same invalid ballots? Also, how many of the ballots are recounted? If you insert 10%(this is just arbitrary number) fraudulent ballots and you just recount those same ballots, what changes? Nothing changes. I believe that they have to do signature verification against the voter roles on these mail in ballots. The verification that they did, didn't actually verify anything, and it just put them all through.

BTW,they found a warehouse of illegally printed ballots that were shipped in from AZ in GA. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1 ... ingbuttons
But that’s a completely different claim. The claim is dominion machines were changing votes. That seems to be clearly false.


As for the ballots, that just shows a picture of ballots. There’s no evidence they are illegally printed or that they came from Arizona. Non filled out ballots sitting in a warehouse is evidence of nothing.

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If there's so much evidence of voter fraud, why are these lawsuits getting laughed out of court by Republican-appointed judges?

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