All Things Ayton
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The sticking point may be the fact that he is demanding the full 30% escalator like the others in his draft class got. But Sarver wouldn't even give that to Booker--he only got 27.5% escalators. So I doubt Sarver will give in.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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Yep. All will be forgiven once he is paid.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:38 pmEverything before October 19th is just gaslighting and leverage.
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I agree, I think he's got to get the max, but escalators shouldn't kick in with 3rd team rubbish... 1st gets you the biscuit as far as I'm concerned, be the best and get the extra $$
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I'd be happier if there was a 5+ FTA per game escalator for Ayton.
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Agreed on this thinking. I think he would be worth the max + escalators if he was the #1 center in the league and DPOY. I think if he were that level, he would be a game changer and someone that would really help when Paul declines.
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I thought the transition from Duane going from "you don't have a deal done yet" to "Chris Paul said the one guy he has seen put in work this offseason was Mikal--what do you think about that?" was really shitty.
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Even if that’s next summer?Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:52 pmYep. All will be forgiven once he is paid.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:38 pmEverything before October 19th is just gaslighting and leverage.
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For real tho!Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:31 pmI'd be happier if there was a 5+ FTA per game escalator for Ayton.
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So him being the 4th best center in the league doesn’t warrant that?Indy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:18 pmHe might get to be all-nba 3rd team by just having a single injury this year to Jokic, Gobert, or the nearly always injured Embiid. Him playing the same way he did last regular season isn't a 40M/year guy.specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:08 pmJust pay the man the max with the escalators. The market has spoken. He is worth it. If he hits All NBA status then that means WOW he took a huge leap and playoff Ayton is the standard and that man deserves it if MPJ is getting it.
So he’s better than Davis, Sabonis, KAT, Bam, etc but doesn’t deserve it SMH
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It's absurd. People are arguing that Ayton shouldn't deserve escalators based on injuries propelling him into 2nd team NBA or 1st team, etc. That max is only for the singular best or top 3 at a given position, which Ayton is right there already, some might argue, around 3rd. Yet Michael Porter Jr. gets love from his team and gets the max. MPJ is better, more valuable and deserving than Ayton?! GTFO. I'd feel disrespected by the Suns too if I saw him and some of the other dudes that got maxed while he doesn't after historic stretches during the postseason and being a huge part of our finals run.
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Agreed. I was cringing that whole part.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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I caught that too.JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:37 pmAgreed. I was cringing that whole part.
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Is Duane known for asking the dumbest and most cringe questions?JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:37 pmAgreed. I was cringing that whole part.
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Funny enough, but I don't think Ayton would accept the deal that Porter did. It was reported as a full max with escalators, but there's some highly conditional elements to it. The way it was reported seemed like more of a favor to the agent.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:36 pmIt's absurd. People are arguing that Ayton shouldn't deserve escalators based on injuries propelling him into 2nd team NBA or 1st team, etc. That max is only for the singular best or top 3 at a given position, which Ayton is right there already, some might argue, around 3rd. Yet Michael Porter Jr. gets love from his team and gets the max. MPJ is better, more valuable and deserving than Ayton?! GTFO. I'd feel disrespected by the Suns too if I saw him and some of the other dudes that got maxed while he doesn't after historic stretches during the postseason and being a huge part of our finals run.
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No that’s Greg MooreIn2ition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:48 pmIs Duane known for asking the dumbest and most cringe questions?JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:37 pmAgreed. I was cringing that whole part.
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Oh, ok. Thanks.specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:03 pmNo that’s Greg MooreIn2ition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:48 pmIs Duane known for asking the dumbest and most cringe questions?JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:37 pmAgreed. I was cringing that whole part.
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I don’t think that was Greg Moore. Pretty sure that was Rankin on both ends sandwiching Kellan Olson.
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I hope it happens this year, to be honest, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world if it wasn’t.
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I agree that Ayton is more deserving of it than MPJ. I think that’s pretty obvious to most.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:36 pmIt's absurd. People are arguing that Ayton shouldn't deserve escalators based on injuries propelling him into 2nd team NBA or 1st team, etc. That max is only for the singular best or top 3 at a given position, which Ayton is right there already, some might argue, around 3rd. Yet Michael Porter Jr. gets love from his team and gets the max. MPJ is better, more valuable and deserving than Ayton?! GTFO. I'd feel disrespected by the Suns too if I saw him and some of the other dudes that got maxed while he doesn't after historic stretches during the postseason and being a huge part of our finals run.
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