Fair. But Upton was born in the 90s. That just hurts to even say.iLLmatic wrote:^ I like bigger boobs on mine.
Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Uh, Dudley was a corpse last year.da_suns_fan wrote:Can we trade Gerald Green for Dudley?
PLEASE?!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is getting ridiculous.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
What does he have to do to get get benched? I'm a Green supporter, but this game Hornacek gave him way too long of a leash. He hit the big 3 in the last minute of the game, but he didn't have to play so many minutes in order to do that. On nights like this, go to someone else, Jeff.The Bobster wrote:Dear God, Green is awful tonight.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
He was trying to clean up the mess he made. 3 4th quarter turnovers, 6 for the game. Compared to 7 rebounds. Absolutely brutal.Mori Chu wrote: Kieff was the hero
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
He's shooting 45% from the field and 44% from 3.Mori Chu wrote:LOL at seeing Kendall Marshall on the Bucks. Good riddance to that guy. Still can't shoot worth a lick.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Yes!
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
indy:

something's not right with the TS statistics when the top True Shooting % leader for the phx suns all time is mark west. I wouldnt want him shooting anywhere outside 5 feet from the basket.
1. Mark West .627
2. Ed Pinckney .623
3. Shaquille O'Neal .619
4. Steve Nash .617
5. Amar'e Stoudemire .606
6. Charles Pittman .602
7. Larry Nance .596
8. Jared Dudley .590
9. Oliver Miller .589
10. Jake Voskuhl .589
http://www.basketball-reference.com/tea ... areer.html

something's not right with the TS statistics when the top True Shooting % leader for the phx suns all time is mark west. I wouldnt want him shooting anywhere outside 5 feet from the basket.
1. Mark West .627
2. Ed Pinckney .623
3. Shaquille O'Neal .619
4. Steve Nash .617
5. Amar'e Stoudemire .606
6. Charles Pittman .602
7. Larry Nance .596
8. Jared Dudley .590
9. Oliver Miller .589
10. Jake Voskuhl .589
http://www.basketball-reference.com/tea ... areer.html
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
You need to consider attempts as well. The percentages are just that.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
how many shots did mark west take? how many attempts at the FT line did mark west get per game? he wasnt a go to guy. west and shaq were bad outside shooters but both made the top three list on TS%.Indy wrote:You need to consider attempts as well. The percentages are just that.
How credible is that shooting statistic?
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
What do you mean? It measures shooting percentage. It doesn't ignore guys that dunk a lot.
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Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Charles Pittman lives two houses down from me.SDC wrote:indy:
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something's not right with the TS statistics when the top True Shooting % leader for the phx suns all time is mark west. I wouldnt want him shooting anywhere outside 5 feet from the basket.
1. Mark West .627
2. Ed Pinckney .623
3. Shaquille O'Neal .619
4. Steve Nash .617
5. Amar'e Stoudemire .606
6. Charles Pittman .602
7. Larry Nance .596
8. Jared Dudley .590
9. Oliver Miller .589
10. Jake Voskuhl .589
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Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
I bet his house isn't made out of bricks.The Bobster wrote:Charles Pittman lives two houses down from me.SDC wrote:indy:
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something's not right with the TS statistics when the top True Shooting % leader for the phx suns all time is mark west. I wouldnt want him shooting anywhere outside 5 feet from the basket.
1. Mark West .627
2. Ed Pinckney .623
3. Shaquille O'Neal .619
4. Steve Nash .617
5. Amar'e Stoudemire .606
6. Charles Pittman .602
7. Larry Nance .596
8. Jared Dudley .590
9. Oliver Miller .589
10. Jake Voskuhl .589
http://www.basketball-reference.com/tea ... areer.html
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
-Shaheen Holloway
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
-Shaheen Holloway
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
mark west cant shoot. #trueshootingIndy wrote:What do you mean? It measures shooting percentage. It doesn't ignore guys that dunk a lot.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Check again.SDC wrote:mark west cant shoot. #trueshootingIndy wrote:What do you mean? It measures shooting percentage. It doesn't ignore guys that dunk a lot.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
I don't understand what is so "wrong" about a stat that shows that our most efficient shooters were our most efficient shooters. True Shooting Percentage doesn't measure long-distance shooting or where the shots were taken from. So what? It measures what percentage of the time you put the ball in the basket. Mark West was good at that.
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Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Because he wasn't a scorer, OR a shooter. Good percentages just means that he got the ball in the right positions and only took the shot when it was a good one. Thats a great quality to have, but it still is a bit misleading for Mark West to be considered a scorer or shooter in any sense. He only scored in the double digits (average) during two seasons, and those were barely - and he only attempted more then 7 shots a game twice as well.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Well, TSP doesn't mean that a player is a great shooter. Just that they shoot a good percentage. It isn't a statistic's fault if the stat does not mean what you wish it meant.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
I don't know why, but that was the funniest thing I read all day.Mori Chu wrote:It isn't a statistic's fault if the stat does not mean what you wish it meant.
Re: Game Day: Bucks (12-12) @ Suns (12-13), Mon 12/15/14
Inconceivable!Mori Chu wrote:Well, TSP doesn't mean that a player is a great shooter. Just that they shoot a good percentage. It isn't a statistic's fault if the stat does not mean what you wish it meant.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
-Shaheen Holloway
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
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