It’s not all or nothing. It’s relative.Split T wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:45 amI take issue with complete failure…if you’re only going to judge by the end result then every single year of the suns existence has been a complete failure…specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:39 amSplit T wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:40 amComplete failure would be the Lakers…they still won 64 games and set the franchise record for wins. You don’t throw away a perfectly good coach over 5 bad games. Remember all the coaches we had before Monty…you want Igor or Watson back? Triano? Hornacek? Hunter? Gentry? Porter?JeremyG wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:27 amWow. I’ve haven’t heard anyone (other than James & Monty) say that last season was anything other than a complete failure.
How is it not underachieving for a 64-win team to not make it out of the second round? And mainly due to abysmal coaching and being completely out-coached in both rounds.
Monty is pretty easily a top 2 coach of the last 25 years for us.
Last season was a complete failure. We were far and away the best team in the league in the regular season, coming off a finals run the year before, and we collapsed against a significantly inferior opponent by all measures.
If you don’t think last year was a failure, you have accepted failure as being “good enough.”
Now, to call last year a failure you must also recognize the year before as a smashing success. Nobody expected this team to be competing at the level it has the last two years when Monty was hired and CP3 was brought on. They raised expectations by performing the way that they have.
Yes ultimately we failed and it was a disappointing/underwhelming finish. No arguments there, but that was still the best regular season team in suns history.
I just don’t like the all or nothing mentality. I want a championship, but I’m going to enjoy the other stuff too.
The Suns team in 2016 would have been a smashing success if they made the playoffs as constructed and with the expectations they had.
This team had a championship goal, had the roster for it, and was the best regular season suns team in history”(whatever the hell participation trophy that’s supposed to net you)
They lost to a team they should have swept.
That is an objective complete failure.