Ayton had a .047 WS/48 and a -3.5 BPM
Landale had a .144 WS/48 and a 0.1 BPM
Ayton had a -4.2 on/off rating
Landale had a +15.7 on/off rating
lol split coming in with straight up stats…. Here comes the rebuttal about the intangibles he brings
Ayton once played really great in the playoffs two years ago.
He absolutely did…. I really think he could have a great season this year. He’s shown he can be great albeit in streaks. It’s the consistency we need from him and when you have a scrub like jock coming in and showing comparable stats you have to scratch your head a little.
People complaining about Nurk and his injuries but want OG included in a deal? He's hurt more than Nurk. OG seems to be a player every fanbase salivates over, in love with the idea of him than his actual play. Also, wouldn't OG be unable to be traded with another player after the initial trade?
Whether or not a deal goes down, I'm not sure how fans can claim we haven't been shopping or looking to trade DA. It's been going on since the draft and we're clearly looking to move on from him for one reason or another - be it his play, his contract, whatever. If he were on solid ground here, there'd be no talk around him whatsoever and certainly no rumors about including him in a deal for Nurk.
I feel like we're getting ready to be dumb...we made all these strong moves, now dumb. I am far from being against trading DA, buy for injury prone centers? Come on! Haven't we figured out now to do stupid sheit like that yet? I haven't seen a proposal yet that makes sense short of getting Scoot, and I don't see them doing that...
In the names so far moving, Damien or Scoot are the only ones that have been worth a damn...
Don't like these Nurkic rumors. Nurkic is really nothing special. He is slow and plodding, he's had some major injuries to his legs, and I don't see much space for upside or improvement from him; he is what he is. Ayton has all kinds of imperfections, but he's a great defender, he's got a lot of talent, and he's still very young and may not be done getting better. I think it's telling that Portland is just itching to be rid of Nurkic and insists on including him in any trade where they part with Dame. I just don't see why you give away a talented (albeit flawed) young starting center for a piece of dead weight like Nurkic.
P.S. 200 pages or no 200 pages, please do make a new thread when and if Ayton does get traded. Thanks.
I don’t think anyone here wants a straight up Ayton for Nurk swap. Perhaps we can all take a breath. Clearly there’s an upside to getting off his contract, so there’s no way we’re getting a great player back in return. I’ll be happy just to see a conclusion at this point. The ratio of Loving Ayton to being frustrated by him has been out of balance for so long.
Whether or not a deal goes down, I'm not sure how fans can claim we haven't been shopping or looking to trade DA. It's been going on since the draft and we're clearly looking to move on from him for one reason or another - be it his play, his contract, whatever. If he were on solid ground here, there'd be no talk around him whatsoever and certainly no rumors about including him in a deal for Nurk.
Even Flex is still saying that we are not shopping him, that other teams are calling and we are listening. That's all. He says other teams are interested because of his Bahamas performance and because they saw what happened with Mikal after he left Phoenix. These teams are thinking that Ayton could be the next Mikal (meaning Suns/Monty was holding him back), per Flex.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
