Game Day: Kings (30-22) @ Suns (31-22), Tues 2/13/24

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Book moved into 2nd all time in scoring for the suns tonight.

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Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:37 pm
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A win is a win, I guess. But every game the team seems to struggle, and we struggle to cheer for them also.
Well the Kings are a good team. We’re not a juggernaut…I think we just wish we were a juggernaut that won by double digits every night
Last year's team was worse talent wise, but it was more pleasant to watch. This team seems to always be lacking something. I don't know if we will got far in the playoffs playing like this, unless Book plays like last year's Denver series all the games.

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9-5-4-3-1 game for Royce

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Whew. Suns win

But if I'm Sacramento, the Suns haven't done anything to make them feel like they can't beat them in a seven game series.
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Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:48 pm
9-5-4-3-1 game for Royce
NBA.com has him with 4 steals. Great game from O'Neale.
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Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:46 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:37 pm
Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:35 pm
A win is a win, I guess. But every game the team seems to struggle, and we struggle to cheer for them also.
Well the Kings are a good team. We’re not a juggernaut…I think we just wish we were a juggernaut that won by double digits every night
Last year's team was worse talent wise, but it was more pleasant to watch. This team seems to always be lacking something. I don't know if we will got far in the playoffs playing like this, unless Book plays like last year's Denver series all the games.
I mean the defensive errors are rough…we were a better defensive team for sure last year. I also think we’re probably remembering the playoff team…not the regular season team that was also quite frustrating at times.

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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:49 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:48 pm
9-5-4-3-1 game for Royce
NBA.com has him with 4 steals. Great game from O'Neale.
I just saw a post on Twitter…4 might be right

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Also I really like Candace Parker usually, but she’s stuck on this suns just iso thing…am I the crazy one? I’m not seeing that at all. We started doing it at the end when Kings were switching everything, but she said it was iso from 11 minutes left in the 4th…we were moving that ball all over the place with that small ball lineup the first half of the 4th.

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Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:50 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:49 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:48 pm
9-5-4-3-1 game for Royce
NBA.com has him with 4 steals. Great game from O'Neale.
I just saw a post on Twitter…4 might be right
ESPN has 4 too, so 9-5-4-4-1 and a team high +13

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Gritty win. Love to see it.

I love Royce's defensive prowess but God damn he's somehow worse than Okogie on offense. I think he's a great missing piece on defense.

Bol had a bad first half but not sure a rusty Nassir Little was any better in the second. Made a play or 2 but also made a bone head play or 2.
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Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:54 pm
Gritty win. Love to see it.

I love Royce's defensive prowess but God damn he's somehow worse than Okogie on offense. I think he's a great missing piece on defense.

Bol had a bad first half but not sure a rusty Nassir Little was any better in the second. Made a play or 2 but also made a bone head play or 2.
How do you figure? 2/5 from 3(including a huge one down the stretch) and 5 assist to 0 turnovers.

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Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:52 pm
Also I really like Candace Parker usually, but she’s stuck on this suns just iso thing…am I the crazy one? I’m not seeing that at all. We started doing it at the end when Kings were switching everything, but she said it was iso from 11 minutes left in the 4th…we were moving that ball all over the place with that small ball lineup the first half of the 4th.
I think she's mostly right. We passed the ball playing small, but we don't use screens to get shooters open, just to pass to durant or Book and they initiate the plays, if don't work pass to the perimeter and so on. I would love to see the team using more backdoor cuts, running some screens to free Allen/Gordon or whatever shooter we have on the court...

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Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:57 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:52 pm
Also I really like Candace Parker usually, but she’s stuck on this suns just iso thing…am I the crazy one? I’m not seeing that at all. We started doing it at the end when Kings were switching everything, but she said it was iso from 11 minutes left in the 4th…we were moving that ball all over the place with that small ball lineup the first half of the 4th.
I think she's mostly right. We passed the ball playing small, but we don't use screens to get shooters open, just to pass to durant or Book and they initiate the plays, if don't work pass to the perimeter and so on. I would love to see the team using more backdoor cuts, running some screens to free Allen/Gordon or whatever shooter we have on the court...
You’re right there’s not a lot of off ball screens…I’d be ok running some stuff to get Grayson and EG looks, especially when they are cooking…I still don’t think drive, kick, swing, drive, kick, shoot is iso at all. We do use some back door cuts with Nurk on the floor at times. We didn’t really have an offensive hub on the court to end the game though. We went small and it was screen to get Booker or Durant into the paint and play from there. Kings started blitzing and doubling…At that point you get it to the screener. Josh missed two layups out of that…hard to get better looks.

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The Suns don't iso so much as they make bad passes in traffic or jump pass, if they'd clean that up things would look much better.

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And I want to shoot Booker everytime he emulates CP3 and cross the half court sloowwwlyyy.

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Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:46 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:37 pm
Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:35 pm
A win is a win, I guess. But every game the team seems to struggle, and we struggle to cheer for them also.
Well the Kings are a good team. We’re not a juggernaut…I think we just wish we were a juggernaut that won by double digits every night
Last year's team was worse talent wise, but it was more pleasant to watch. This team seems to always be lacking something. I don't know if we will got far in the playoffs playing like this, unless Book plays like last year's Denver series all the games.
I think you (and a lot of people) are missing Chris Paul. It's easy to forget how simple he made everything look during the regular season and especially the 4th quarter. Going from a ball dominant Hall of Fame point guard to a collective ball sharing scheme has been very dramatic from an aesthetic perspective, not to mention the dumb turnovers.
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Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:52 pm
Also I really like Candace Parker usually, but she’s stuck on this suns just iso thing…am I the crazy one? I’m not seeing that at all. We started doing it at the end when Kings were switching everything, but she said it was iso from 11 minutes left in the 4th…we were moving that ball all over the place with that small ball lineup the first half of the 4th.
She's been stuck in that take for a while now, one of the hardliner "Suns need a PG" pundits.

Moving the ball to hunt mismatches and attacking them in isolation is not iso-ball. In fact, it's less iso-centric than what a lot of "point guards" do in the PnR right now.
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Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:55 pm
djy2j wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:54 pm
Gritty win. Love to see it.

I love Royce's defensive prowess but God damn he's somehow worse than Okogie on offense. I think he's a great missing piece on defense.

Bol had a bad first half but not sure a rusty Nassir Little was any better in the second. Made a play or 2 but also made a bone head play or 2.
How do you figure? 2/5 from 3(including a huge one down the stretch) and 5 assist to 0 turnovers.
Yeah, Royce walked into a semi-transition pull up 3 and drilled it. I’m not sure Okogie could pull that off at LA Fitness, let alone during crunch time of a tight game.
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