What do you think the suns do next after Beal is bought out?

[Superbone]

Well, let's just hope this means it's over this week. Time to move forward.

[ShelC]

[Superbone]

Why waiting until after July 15 to buyout Bradley Beal makes sense for him and the Suns
Diving into the numbers brings the probable motivation to light.
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2025 ... nce-salary

On July 15, Beal’s contract specifies that he will get a 25% advance on his 2025-26 season salary. That equals a lump sum of $13,416,567.50. I said earlier in the comments section of John’s earlier article on this topic that the advance payment would have no effect on the buyout numbers...but I was wrong about that. After giving it some more thought, I realized that it actually does change a few things that work out in favor of both Beal and the Suns.

While that amount being paid to him early normally would have no impact on the Suns’ cap sheet or their luxury tax obligations, waiting until after this payment is made will lower the amount of cash that would have to be stretched after he is bought out. It almost lowers the stretched amount to the point of being below the 15% limit of stretched dead salary that teams are allowed to carry on their cap sheets, just not quite enough to get all the way there.

Once that advance payment is made, stretching the remaining 75% of Beal’s 2025-26 salary plus the full amount for 2026-27 equals yearly stretch payments of $19,475,662.50. Adding in the dead money already owed to Nassir Little and E.J. Liddell brings the total up to $23,289,703.50, which would be 15.06% of the cap, just a tiny bit over the maximum amount allowed...but still over the limit.

But the important thing is that waiting until he gets his advance also means that Beal could be bought out for a sum significantly smaller than the nearly $14 million buyout that has been previously reported, and the Suns could still stretch his remaining salary over 5 years if they wish to do so. That’s the key here.

It’s been reported that the most Beal could now get from any of his preferred teams to sign with them after his buyout would be a contract for around $5.3 million. After receiving the 25% advance, a buyout equal to that $5.3 mil amount would work to bring the total of the Suns’ stretched dead salary down to 14.4% of the cap while also ensuring that Beal doesn’t actually lose any of the money already owed to him.

[Split T]

I feel like that’s not accurate…that’s implying the 13 million we pay him won’t count against the cap, but it definitely will. I don’t think waiting changes how the stretch works at all.

[specialsauce]

Why waiting until after July 15 to buyout Bradley Beal makes sense for him and the Suns
Diving into the numbers brings the probable motivation to light.
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2025 ... nce-salary

On July 15, Beal’s contract specifies that he will get a 25% advance on his 2025-26 season salary. That equals a lump sum of $13,416,567.50. I said earlier in the comments section of John’s earlier article on this topic that the advance payment would have no effect on the buyout numbers...but I was wrong about that. After giving it some more thought, I realized that it actually does change a few things that work out in favor of both Beal and the Suns.

While that amount being paid to him early normally would have no impact on the Suns’ cap sheet or their luxury tax obligations, waiting until after this payment is made will lower the amount of cash that would have to be stretched after he is bought out. It almost lowers the stretched amount to the point of being below the 15% limit of stretched dead salary that teams are allowed to carry on their cap sheets, just not quite enough to get all the way there.

Once that advance payment is made, stretching the remaining 75% of Beal’s 2025-26 salary plus the full amount for 2026-27 equals yearly stretch payments of $19,475,662.50. Adding in the dead money already owed to Nassir Little and E.J. Liddell brings the total up to $23,289,703.50, which would be 15.06% of the cap, just a tiny bit over the maximum amount allowed...but still over the limit.

But the important thing is that waiting until he gets his advance also means that Beal could be bought out for a sum significantly smaller than the nearly $14 million buyout that has been previously reported, and the Suns could still stretch his remaining salary over 5 years if they wish to do so. That’s the key here.

It’s been reported that the most Beal could now get from any of his preferred teams to sign with them after his buyout would be a contract for around $5.3 million. After receiving the 25% advance, a buyout equal to that $5.3 mil amount would work to bring the total of the Suns’ stretched dead salary down to 14.4% of the cap while also ensuring that Beal doesn’t actually lose any of the money already owed to him.

Penny pinching piece of shit

[Superbone]

I feel like that’s not accurate…that’s implying the 13 million we pay him won’t count against the cap, but it definitely will. I don’t think waiting changes how the stretch works at all.

It's 13 million we don't have to stretch.

[Split T]

I feel like that’s not accurate…that’s implying the 13 million we pay him won’t count against the cap, but it definitely will. I don’t think waiting changes how the stretch works at all.

It's 13 million we don't have to stretch.

I don’t think that’s true. At least not how it impacts our cap. The dead money hit is the same regardless

[JeremyG]

I feel like that’s not accurate…that’s implying the 13 million we pay him won’t count against the cap, but it definitely will. I don’t think waiting changes how the stretch works at all.

It's 13 million we don't have to stretch.

I don’t think that’s true. At least not how it impacts our cap. The dead money hit is the same regardless

The dead money hit against the cap, yes. But the only thing that matters is how much dead money is stretched.

It sounds like we would not have even needed to negotiate with Beal if we just hadn’t stretched EJ freaking Liddell.

[Split T]

I feel like that’s not accurate…that’s implying the 13 million we pay him won’t count against the cap, but it definitely will. I don’t think waiting changes how the stretch works at all.

It's 13 million we don't have to stretch.

I don’t think that’s true. At least not how it impacts our cap. The dead money hit is the same regardless

The dead money hit against the cap, yes. But the only thing that matters is how much dead money is stretched.

It sounds like we would not have even needed to negotiate with Beal if we just hadn’t stretched EJ freaking Liddell.

I still don’t think when he gets paid changes the amount that counts as stretched. We’ll see I guess

[SunsShine]

I feel like that’s not accurate…that’s implying the 13 million we pay him won’t count against the cap, but it definitely will. I don’t think waiting changes how the stretch works at all.

It's 13 million we don't have to stretch.

I don’t think that’s true. At least not how it impacts our cap. The dead money hit is the same regardless

The dead money hit against the cap, yes. But the only thing that matters is how much dead money is stretched.

It sounds like we would not have even needed to negotiate with Beal if we just hadn’t stretched EJ freaking Liddell.

I still don’t think when he gets paid changes the amount that counts as stretched. We’ll see I guess

Would it be less money Beal would have to surrender to make the buyout/waive and stretch possible? We’d still have the same amount of dead cap on our books, but this would mean Beal would retain most of the money he would have otherwise needed to give up?

[JeremyG]

I feel like that’s not accurate…that’s implying the 13 million we pay him won’t count against the cap, but it definitely will. I don’t think waiting changes how the stretch works at all.

It's 13 million we don't have to stretch.

I don’t think that’s true. At least not how it impacts our cap. The dead money hit is the same regardless

The dead money hit against the cap, yes. But the only thing that matters is how much dead money is stretched.

It sounds like we would not have even needed to negotiate with Beal if we just hadn’t stretched EJ freaking Liddell.

I still don’t think when he gets paid changes the amount that counts as stretched. We’ll see I guess

I believe it should be similar to using the “delayed stretch” provision.

[Split T]

We’ll see I guess, but from what I’ve read, I don’t think it changes anything in regard to our calculations.

It might impact when Beal gets his money, but our calculations remain the same. I think the delayed stretch only impacts whether we choose to keep the 1st year salary on the books. I don’t think we can choose to keep part of the 1st year salary on the books and stretch the rest. It also doesn’t make much sense for us if getting out of the tax is our main goal.

[Split T]

It's 13 million we don't have to stretch.

I don’t think that’s true. At least not how it impacts our cap. The dead money hit is the same regardless

The dead money hit against the cap, yes. But the only thing that matters is how much dead money is stretched.

It sounds like we would not have even needed to negotiate with Beal if we just hadn’t stretched EJ freaking Liddell.

I still don’t think when he gets paid changes the amount that counts as stretched. We’ll see I guess

Would it be less money Beal would have to surrender to make the buyout/waive and stretch possible? We’d still have the same amount of dead cap on our books, but this would mean Beal would retain most of the money he would have otherwise needed to give up?

That’s what the article was saying, I just think it was wrong.

[Superbone]

[Split T]

David knows more than just about anyone when it comes to cap stuff and he’s one of the reasons I don’t trust that bright side article. Notice his dead money numbers don’t change at all for what Beal counts against us.

[Shabazz]

Stretching Beal can't be the only move. We should also be looking to trade Richards into cap space and/or consolidating any combination of Grayson/Richards/Royce and taking back less salary in that move. That will open up some options for us.

[specialsauce]

They're all getting traded for Giddey let's go

[O_Gardino]

For sure they should look to move at least one of Grayson and Royce. I wouldn't be mad if they move both of those guys, especially if they bring back value instead of just dumping salary. Personally, I'd keep Royce because they are going to need some defense off the bench.

IMO they should also hang on to Richards because we will need the depth. This team only has 5 guys over 6'7".

[Superbone]

They're all getting traded for Giddey let's go

Shouldn't you say, Giddey up!

[Superbone]

For sure they should look to move at least one of Grayson and Royce. I wouldn't be mad if they move both of those guys, especially if they bring back value instead of just dumping salary. Personally, I'd keep Royce because they are going to need some defense off the bench.

IMO they should also hang on to Richards because we will need the depth. This team only has 5 guys over 6'7".

And they're mostly rookies and 2nd year players.