I am not as old as I thought.When Phoenix first drafted in 1998, the NBA had 15 rounds. FIFTEEN. Plus the Suns and other expansion teams had five additional rounds, so there were 20 rounds for the Suns in '68.
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Indy wrote:I am not as old as I thought.When Phoenix first drafted in 1998, the NBA had 15 rounds. FIFTEEN. Plus the Suns and other expansion teams had five additional rounds, so there were 20 rounds for the Suns in '68.
I corrected it.


Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...
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It reminded me of the trailer for In the Line FireLazarusLong wrote:Indy wrote:I am not as old as I thought.When Phoenix first drafted in 1998, the NBA had 15 rounds. FIFTEEN. Plus the Suns and other expansion teams had five additional rounds, so there were 20 rounds for the Suns in '68.
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Top picks in years when they had no first-round picks -
1980 - #42 - Kimberly Belton
1983 - #28 - Rod Foster
1991 - #32 - Chad Gallagher
1997 - #42 - Stephen Jackson
2001 - #50 - Alton Ford
2010 - #46 - Gani Lawal
1980 - #42 - Kimberly Belton
1983 - #28 - Rod Foster
1991 - #32 - Chad Gallagher
1997 - #42 - Stephen Jackson
2001 - #50 - Alton Ford
2010 - #46 - Gani Lawal
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Thanks, Bobster.
It just seems to me that throughout our history, we've had a bum rap in the draft pick category. I guess that comes with the territory of being the fourth most successful team during that time period although that's probably no longer true due to our current 5 year playoff slump. Even when we miss the playoffs, it's not by much and we don't get very good picks. The fifth pick for Len was our highest in a long time. We stupidly gave away that 7th pick (Igoudala) and I guess we did it again with the Lakers pick but who knows where that one will end up.
It just seems to me that throughout our history, we've had a bum rap in the draft pick category. I guess that comes with the territory of being the fourth most successful team during that time period although that's probably no longer true due to our current 5 year playoff slump. Even when we miss the playoffs, it's not by much and we don't get very good picks. The fifth pick for Len was our highest in a long time. We stupidly gave away that 7th pick (Igoudala) and I guess we did it again with the Lakers pick but who knows where that one will end up.
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Yeah, you should have been at .net during those days. The guy was a physical speciman. Unfortunately, that doesn't always translate to a good basketball player.TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Always thought Ford was gonna be decent
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The Colangeli were great at the draft. That was back when a lot of the other teams didn't know what they were doing. We were routinely finding gems at lowish picks like Mike Finley, Marion, Ced Ceballos, etc. Those were the days.
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Mario Bennett, Dijon Thompson, Alton Ford, Jackson Vroman...
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the last 20 years picking...
1-5 - Alex Len
6-10 - Luol Deng*, Amar'e Stoudemire, Shawn Marion
11-15 - T.J. Warren, Kendall Marshall, Markieff Morris, Earl Clark, Robin Lopez, Steve Nash
16-20 - Tyler Ennis, Zarko Cabarkapa
21-25 - Rudy Fernandez*, Rajon Rondo*, Nate Robinson*, Jake Tsakalidis, Michael Finley
26-30 -
*traded on draft night
1-5 - Alex Len
6-10 - Luol Deng*, Amar'e Stoudemire, Shawn Marion
11-15 - T.J. Warren, Kendall Marshall, Markieff Morris, Earl Clark, Robin Lopez, Steve Nash
16-20 - Tyler Ennis, Zarko Cabarkapa
21-25 - Rudy Fernandez*, Rajon Rondo*, Nate Robinson*, Jake Tsakalidis, Michael Finley
26-30 -
*traded on draft night
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There really is only one player who they whiffed on - Kendall Marshall. Another case could be made for Earl Clark.
But there were some pretty awful trades - Deng to Chicago so they would have the cap space to sign Q Richardson and Rondo to Boston being the biggest blunders.
But there were some pretty awful trades - Deng to Chicago so they would have the cap space to sign Q Richardson and Rondo to Boston being the biggest blunders.
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6-10 has been our sweet spot. There's always a guy there that drops and turns into the player among that group.
Earl Clark we didn't utilize properly. Marshall was a total whiff. So was Ennis. Lopez, meh. Hibbert, Batum, McGee, Pekovic, DeAndre. Say what you want about some of those other guys but i think some of them could have turned out differently had we drafted them.
Earl Clark we didn't utilize properly. Marshall was a total whiff. So was Ennis. Lopez, meh. Hibbert, Batum, McGee, Pekovic, DeAndre. Say what you want about some of those other guys but i think some of them could have turned out differently had we drafted them.
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ShelC wrote:6-10 has been our sweet spot. There's always a guy there that drops and turns into the player among that group.
Earl Clark we didn't utilize properly. Marshall was a total whiff. So was Ennis. Lopez, meh. Hibbert, Batum, McGee, Pekovic, DeAndre. Say what you want about some of those other guys but i think some of them could have turned out differently had we drafted them.
Earl calrk went to other teams and wasn't any good. So I disagree we if we utilized him differently he would of turned into a player.
He had a lot of the physical tools, but the dude couldn't shoot.
“Kobe had said (after the play) I wasn’t hugged enough as a child,” Bell recalled. “My mom kind of found him after the instance and we had beat them and offered him a hug in the bowels of the Phoenix arena. She really feels a part of that story.”
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ShelC wrote:Mario Bennett, Dijon Thompson, Alton Ford, Jackson Vroman...
Thats an all-star cast if I ever seen one!
“Kobe had said (after the play) I wasn’t hugged enough as a child,” Bell recalled. “My mom kind of found him after the instance and we had beat them and offered him a hug in the bowels of the Phoenix arena. She really feels a part of that story.”
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Good riddance to Earl Clark. He did have one or two good seasons, but they seem to have been a fluke. He's out of the NBA now, right?
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I thought I saw him this season once.
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INFORMER is not here to defend himself on this.Mori Chu wrote:Good riddance to Earl Clark. He did have one or two good seasons, but they seem to have been a fluke. He's out of the NBA now, right?
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I hope INF is okay, haven't heard from him in quite awhile.
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BTW, Cleveland just went into Atlanta's house and won 2 games there. Ouch. Cavs in 4 or 5 games looks pretty realistic at this point. Pencil Lebron in for the Finals again. 5 straight years.
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4 games 4 sure.
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