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1st Round: Frank Ntilikina, Zach Collins, Semi Ojeleye
2nd Round: Sindarius Thornwell, Wesley Iwundu, Alpha Kaba, Jawun Evans, Devin Robinson, Caleb Swanigan, Cameron Oliver, Alec Peters, Dwayne Bacon
POLL: Grade the Suns' draft overall
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Just 'cause I wish I'd saved your sig from last year:
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i dont know if people here consider michael kidd gilchrist a bust, but josh jackson could end up like MKG, only worse.
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I think he's got more offensive skills than MKG, less "power" to his game. But swingmen drafted so high tend to not live up to their draft position.
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josh jackson is a worse shooter than MKG, if you can believe that.ShelC wrote:I think he's got more offensive skills than MKG,.
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Really? You mean at the freethrow line or everywhere?SDC wrote:josh jackson is a worse shooter than MKG, if you can believe that.ShelC wrote:I think he's got more offensive skills than MKG,.
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Let's face it, this team desperately needs a shot doctor. JJ isn't the only problem.
These are the players' formative years. Now is the time to fix this.
These are the players' formative years. Now is the time to fix this.
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josh jackson is a worse outside shooter than gilchrist. period!In2ition wrote:Really? You mean at the freethrow line or everywhere?SDC wrote:josh jackson is a worse shooter than MKG, if you can believe that.ShelC wrote:I think he's got more offensive skills than MKG,.
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Damn, maybe we should just release him right now and cut our losses. No reason to even waste our time developing him, since he is going to be worthless.SDC wrote:josh jackson is a worse outside shooter than gilchrist. period!In2ition wrote:Really? You mean at the freethrow line or everywhere?SDC wrote:josh jackson is a worse shooter than MKG, if you can believe that.ShelC wrote:I think he's got more offensive skills than MKG,.
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or just trade him to NY.In2ition wrote:Damn, maybe we should just release him right now and cut our losses. No reason to even waste our time developing him, since he is going to be worthless.SDC wrote:josh jackson is a worse outside shooter than gilchrist. period!In2ition wrote:Really? You mean at the freethrow line or everywhere?SDC wrote:josh jackson is a worse shooter than MKG, if you can believe that.ShelC wrote:I think he's got more offensive skills than MKG,.
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Or take him out back and shoot him, like a horse with a broken leg.SDC wrote:or just trade him to NY.In2ition wrote:Damn, maybe we should just release him right now and cut our losses. No reason to even waste our time developing him, since he is going to be worthless.SDC wrote:josh jackson is a worse outside shooter than gilchrist. period!In2ition wrote:Really? You mean at the freethrow line or everywhere?SDC wrote:
josh jackson is a worse shooter than MKG, if you can believe that.
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I'd need to do a deep dive into stats and shot charts but my first instinct is that MKG gets most of his pts inside so the FG% may be skewed.
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I'd ask him to shoot himself, but he would probably miss.In2ition wrote:Or take him out back and shoot him, like a horse with a broken leg.SDC wrote:or just trade him to NY.In2ition wrote:Damn, maybe we should just release him right now and cut our losses. No reason to even waste our time developing him, since he is going to be worthless.SDC wrote:josh jackson is a worse outside shooter than gilchrist. period!In2ition wrote: Really? You mean at the freethrow line or everywhere?
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Ok, so I looked up the stats and SDC is full of it.
Here is MKG's stats:
Totals Shooting Per Game
Season Age College G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST
2011-12 18 KENTUCKY 40 1245 160 326 13 51 143 192 103 297 75 39 37 87 97 476 0.491 0.255 0.745 31.1 11.9 7.4 1.9
Career 40 1245 160 326 13 51 143 192 103 297 75 39 37 87 97 476 0.491 0.255 0.745 31.1 11.9 7.4 1.9
Josh shot more 3 pointers at a much better % and more fgs period at a better. He only shot free throws at a lower %.
Here is MKG's stats:
Totals Shooting Per Game
Season Age College G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST
2011-12 18 KENTUCKY 40 1245 160 326 13 51 143 192 103 297 75 39 37 87 97 476 0.491 0.255 0.745 31.1 11.9 7.4 1.9
Career 40 1245 160 326 13 51 143 192 103 297 75 39 37 87 97 476 0.491 0.255 0.745 31.1 11.9 7.4 1.9
Josh shot more 3 pointers at a much better % and more fgs period at a better. He only shot free throws at a lower %.
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We should still shoot him. Let's not let facts get in the way.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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I thought the low ft% meant that the 3pters don't count? Don't the refs review the game, look at a guy's shooting form, look at his free throws, and determine if a player should really have made the shot?
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I think I heard that too. That's why results of games change post game. There is no need to celebrate right after a close win, just wait in the locker room with your teammates while the judges give you the thumbs up or down. Then celebrate without worry of fans rushing the court and hurting you. The damn Russian judges though...O_Gardino wrote:I thought the low ft% meant that the 3pters don't count? Don't the refs review the game, look at a guy's shooting form, look at his free throws, and determine if a player should really have made the shot?
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shockedIn2ition wrote:Ok, so I looked up the stats and SDC is full of it.
Here is MKG's stats:
Totals Shooting Per Game
Season Age College G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST
2011-12 18 KENTUCKY 40 1245 160 326 13 51 143 192 103 297 75 39 37 87 97 476 0.491 0.255 0.745 31.1 11.9 7.4 1.9
Career 40 1245 160 326 13 51 143 192 103 297 75 39 37 87 97 476 0.491 0.255 0.745 31.1 11.9 7.4 1.9
Josh shot more 3 pointers at a much better % and more fgs period at a better. He only shot free throws at a lower %.
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Re: POLL: Grade the Suns' draft overall
Some people crave for atention, even if it is by setting the house in fire.In2ition wrote:Ok, so I looked up the stats and SDC is full of it.
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8.5/10O_Gardino wrote:I'd ask him to shoot himself, but he would probably miss.
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This is a "greater good" situation. Better to shoot him now before he fulfills his mass murderer destiny.Superbone wrote:We should still shoot him. Let's not let facts get in the way.