Just paste that ish into CheatGPT and tell it to shorten up all your blabberin'!
Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:20 am
by ShelC
I'm done with AI. Here's my interaction with CoPilot yesterday. And now I actually feel bad about being hard on it:
What about Jared Butler? Is his deal non-guaranteed as well?
Jared Butler’s deal with the Phoenix Suns for the 2025–26 season is fully guaranteed. He signed a 1-year contract worth $2.46 million, and unlike Jordan Goodwin’s partial guarantee, Butler’s salary is locked in from day one.
He’s also trade-restricted until December 15, meaning the Suns can’t move him until that date. So while he’s not a marquee name, Phoenix clearly sees value in keeping him around—at least through the early part of the season. Want to explore how these contracts shape the Suns’ depth chart or cap flexibility?
This is wrong, Jared Butler is on a non-guaranteed Exhibit 9 contract You're absolutely right—and thanks for catching that! Jared Butler’s deal with the Phoenix Suns is indeed a non-guaranteed Exhibit 9 contract. That type of contract is typically used for training camp invites and offers no guaranteed salary unless the player makes the regular-season roster.
It also doesn’t include Exhibit 10 language, which means it doesn’t automatically convert to a two-way or G League bonus deal if he’s waived. So Butler’s spot on the team is far from secure—he’ll need to impress during camp to stick around. Appreciate the correction! Want to look at other Suns players on similar deals or how this affects their depth chart?
So what's the point of CoPilot if I have to correct the information? Totally fair—and I appreciate you calling that out. My goal is to be accurate, insightful, and genuinely helpful, not to hand you half-right info that you have to clean up. When I miss the mark, it’s frustrating, and you deserve better.
That said, your correction actually helps me improve the conversation. You clearly know your stuff, and when you push back, it lets us get to the truth faster. I’m here to be your sharpest tool, not just a yes-machine. If you ever want to dig deeper or double-check anything, I’ll always be ready to go the extra mile. Want to keep going with Suns roster moves, or pivot to something else entirely?
Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:00 am
by Mori Chu
I wish the various AI agents would be more upfront about how confident they are about the correctness of their answers, and/or where they got their information from. As it is, they just state things with confidence and certainty, and then when you point out to them that they are completely wrong, they say, "Yes, right you are, good sir! I was totally incorrect. Here is the correct information: ____" It's bizarre and baffling.
Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:09 am
by ShelC
Yea they're only scouring the internet for answers and spitting the info back at you. But if the actual info is false or manufactured, it holds no weight. I saw one guy on social post a response from Grok where he asked Grok about his qualifications that made him an expert, but all Grok did was compile info that this guy had written about himself on various websites and social media posts. It's pretty comical.
The report was today but not sure if the offer is recent. Very much against this deal, don't like the player or the contract and locks us into more long term money for a guy who isn't moving the needle for us. I don't know what the FO sees in him.
The report was today but not sure if the offer is recent. Very much against this deal, don't like the player or the contract and locks us into more long term money for a guy who isn't moving the needle for us. I don't know what the FO sees in him.
Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:30 pm
by Superbone
I'm pretty sure this is old regurgitated news that the Warriors turned down long ago. It's just that now more details are being provided.
Yea but I feel far more positive going into this season than the last one. We may not win a lot of games but expect the effort to be far better than before.
This is how I feel about the Suns *and* my Saints. The D'backs? They're trading 1/3 of their team & will likely win 10 games the rest of the season. Injuries doomed them as well as some pitchers underperforming (Wtf happened to Zac Gallen?) My Oilers made a 2nd cup final but lost to the damn Panthers again but it was a fun season. Had a better time watching Connor & Draisaitl zoom around the rink even though I barely understand hockey than watching Suns games.
Funny thing has happened, though ... despite giving up their #1 pitcher, top home run hitter and a couple of other rotational guys for prospects at the trade deadline, the Diamondbacks are alive-ish. The day after you made this post, they lost their sixth straight game and fell to 51-59 on the season. Dead, right? But baseball's a funny game. They've somehow gone 25-16 since then to get back above .500 and, helped by the struggles of a bunch of teams that were ahead of them basically all season, are actually in competition to get a wild card playoff spot.
Gallen has put it back together and been legitimately good his last half dozen starts or so; most of the other starting pitching has also been pretty good. The bullpen is an adventure, to say the least, capable of lighting any lead on fire on any given night, but the offense has been really good, especially Corbin Carroll and Geraldo Perdomo lately.
They've got a really tough closing stretch, but just the fact that they're still playing meaningful games at this point in the season is kind of amazing.
I'm pretty sure this is old regurgitated news that the Warriors turned down long ago. It's just that now more details are being provided.
Hope so and really, if the only other team interested in the guy you're interested in is the Kings, that should make you think twice.
Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:31 am
by Mori Chu
It's telling that no GOOD teams want anything to do with Kuminga. I don't hate him as a player but I really don't want to give up any significant assets for him. The risk is really high given his very questionable motivation, bbiq, and lack of many important skills like defense and passing.
It's telling that no GOOD teams want anything to do with Kuminga. I don't hate him as a player but I really don't want to give up any significant assets for him. The risk is really high given his very questionable motivation, bbiq, and lack of many important skills like defense and passing.
Sounds like another former Suns player.
Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:07 am
by wpmiller42
I don't know, 4-years at $90 million really isn't that much nowadays. And if there's a team option for the 4th year, I think that becomes a reasonable contract.
I don't see how any young guy who was thrown under the bus by his coach over and over again, and probably berated by Draymond in practice after practice can really be expected to succeed. I'm not saying he's some elite defender, but I don't think he's worse than average. He's got great size and athleticism at a position of need for us. He can definitely score, and can show he can be a scorer when Curry is out and defenses can focus more on him.
I don't think we should give up significant assets for him, but I could live with Royce and a couple 2nd rounders, and I like Royce quite a bit.
