Suns Name Earl Watson as Head Coach
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That's what we're basing his coaching ability on? That he was able to draw up a couple of plays that worked against an abysmally coached Timberwolves team. Hooray? I'm not even sure McDonough buys what he's selling right now.Superbone wrote:How so?
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He didn't say it's the only thing he based it on. It was just one example.carey wrote:That's what we're basing his coaching ability on? That he was able to draw up a couple of plays that worked against an abysmally coached Timberwolves team. Hooray? I'm not even sure McDonough buys what he's selling right now.Superbone wrote:How so?
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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Why is Watson pointing out that Booker dropped the ball? Tough love?
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It was McDonough who pointed it out and he said it jokingly.Indy wrote:Why is Watson pointing out that Booker dropped the ball? Tough love?
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Yep. He was just giving an example.Superbone wrote:He didn't say it's the only thing he based it on. It was just one example.carey wrote:That's what we're basing his coaching ability on? That he was able to draw up a couple of plays that worked against an abysmally coached Timberwolves team. Hooray? I'm not even sure McDonough buys what he's selling right now.Superbone wrote:How so?
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Are there others? Besides being able to win over Doug & Wolf?
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I'm not as down on this move as others provided Watson is given the time to build this from the ground up/doesn't have some mandate to make the playoffs immediately AND he gets a few Ron Adams/Thibs-under-doc types to fill out his staff and help him construct a functioning offense and defense.
I didn't see much from him on the Xs-and-Os side and was particularly discouraged when he responded to a question about the Len-Chandler pairing not working with The Dude's "well, that's just like your opinion, man" (No, it wasn't. They literally had the one of worst offensive ratings of any duo in the NBA). I was also discouraged by how often he seemed to run post-ups, an inefficient enough play on it's own, for two players who are not good at scoring at post ups. The NBA is moving away from a lot of the stuff he was running this year. I don't want a stodgy "analytics are just fancy stats" type as our coach. The best coaches embrace analytics and I have my concerns about Watson's respect for them. As long as he has an open mind...
I will acknowledge a few things:
- Watson seems to have a natural leadership ability and a way of connecting with players that is rare among NBA coaches. Even if the players weren't playing smart, they were playing hard. We just need to work on the other half of the equation.
- Developing a functioning offense and defense with our hodge-podge roster halfway through this abortion of a season is something even the most seasoned coach would have had a hard time doing.
- Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing.
I didn't see much from him on the Xs-and-Os side and was particularly discouraged when he responded to a question about the Len-Chandler pairing not working with The Dude's "well, that's just like your opinion, man" (No, it wasn't. They literally had the one of worst offensive ratings of any duo in the NBA). I was also discouraged by how often he seemed to run post-ups, an inefficient enough play on it's own, for two players who are not good at scoring at post ups. The NBA is moving away from a lot of the stuff he was running this year. I don't want a stodgy "analytics are just fancy stats" type as our coach. The best coaches embrace analytics and I have my concerns about Watson's respect for them. As long as he has an open mind...
I will acknowledge a few things:
- Watson seems to have a natural leadership ability and a way of connecting with players that is rare among NBA coaches. Even if the players weren't playing smart, they were playing hard. We just need to work on the other half of the equation.
- Developing a functioning offense and defense with our hodge-podge roster halfway through this abortion of a season is something even the most seasoned coach would have had a hard time doing.
- Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing.
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Also, I can't support the fact that they didn't wait to weeks and interview a few other candidates. What was the rush? We have a while before draft workouts. Maybe Memphis lets Joerger go. Maybe someone stands out even more in the interview process. Why so half-assed? Were they worried about hurting Watson's feelings?
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Yeah, and Book was there. As well as Teletovich, Knight, and Price, I believe.Wally_West wrote:It was McDonough who pointed it out and he said it jokingly.Indy wrote:Why is Watson pointing out that Booker dropped the ball? Tough love?
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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Does Boivin count?carey wrote:Are there others? Besides being able to win over Doug & Wolf?
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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Well, at least you can't complain about the Suns waiting on unrealistic targets and letting their own free agents slip away. Shows that McD is learning something about human resource management.Shabazz wrote:Also, I can't support the fact that they didn't wait to weeks and interview a few other candidates. What was the rush? We have a while before draft workouts. Maybe Memphis lets Joerger go. Maybe someone stands out even more in the interview process. Why so half-assed? Were they worried about hurting Watson's feelings?
I'm willing to give Watson a shot. It's not like anyone else would have taken this job anyway.
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I appreciate your balanced take, 'Bazz.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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My memory on the details is a bit hazy, but did they do the same thing when they hired Hornacek?Shabazz wrote:Also, I can't support the fact that they didn't wait to weeks and interview a few other candidates. What was the rush? We have a while before draft workouts. Maybe Memphis lets Joerger go. Maybe someone stands out even more in the interview process. Why so half-assed? Were they worried about hurting Watson's feelings?
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Don't like Watson and don't like this news. He is a coach the players like, but I don't see much else from him to warrant any excitement. We didn't even try to look at other candidates. Why not?
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This is my problem. I think I was one of the very first people on here to say that I loved what Watson was saying, and completely supported his philosophy. I just haven't seen actual game coaching that made me think he was at least average at it.Shabazz wrote:Also, I can't support the fact that they didn't wait to weeks and interview a few other candidates. What was the rush? We have a while before draft workouts. Maybe Memphis lets Joerger go. Maybe someone stands out even more in the interview process. Why so half-assed? Were they worried about hurting Watson's feelings?
But since they did hire him, I absolutely wish him the best. I hope he turns into the best coach we have ever had, and makes Ryan and Sarver look smart.
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Just curious, but how do you not like the guy? I get thinking he is in over his head, but what has he done to make you dislike him?Mori Chu wrote:Don't like Watson and don't like this news. He is a coach the players like, but I don't see much else from him to warrant any excitement. We didn't even try to look at other candidates. Why not?
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Got it. Thanks. Makes a big difference.Wally_West wrote:It was McDonough who pointed it out and he said it jokingly.Indy wrote:Why is Watson pointing out that Booker dropped the ball? Tough love?
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They did a thorough search before they hired Hornacek. Interviewed quite a few coaches, including Lindsey Hunter.Gladiator wrote:My memory on the details is a bit hazy, but did they do the same thing when they hired Hornacek?Shabazz wrote:Also, I can't support the fact that they didn't wait to weeks and interview a few other candidates. What was the rush? We have a while before draft workouts. Maybe Memphis lets Joerger go. Maybe someone stands out even more in the interview process. Why so half-assed? Were they worried about hurting Watson's feelings?
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Thanks. I knew I couldn't trust my memory!Shabazz wrote:They did a thorough search before they hired Hornacek. Interviewed quite a few coaches, including Lindsey Hunter.Gladiator wrote:My memory on the details is a bit hazy, but did they do the same thing when they hired Hornacek?Shabazz wrote:Also, I can't support the fact that they didn't wait to weeks and interview a few other candidates. What was the rush? We have a while before draft workouts. Maybe Memphis lets Joerger go. Maybe someone stands out even more in the interview process. Why so half-assed? Were they worried about hurting Watson's feelings?