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Sunsfan4life wrote:I'm not a fan of this move, but it's whatever. Would of loved a guy who's won every where he's been like Jay Wright. I haven't seen enough of Watson with a healthy roster to judge him, but 9-24 with some very lopsided losses wasn't that encouraging.

On to the draft lotto
But 9-15 over the last 24. The initial 0-9 could possibly be attributed to getting all that Horny/Kieff stank outta there.
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We're actually optimistic about an interim coach who went 9-15.

Well, at least we're not the Lakers!

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ShelC wrote:We're actually optimistic about an interim coach who went 9-15.

Well, at least we're not the Lakers!
It is 10 points higher than we finished the season at...

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Let's not forget that the roster he had was Price, Booker, Tucker, Leuer, Len, Chandler, Teletovic, Goodwin, and Jenkins. Not exactly a rotation I'd expect any coach to win many games with. I don't love the hire, but I'm OK with it. Watson seems like a smart guy and has the respect of NBA players on our team and elsewhere.

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Indy wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:
Indy wrote:Just curious, but how do you not like the guy? I get thinking he is in over his head, but what has he done to make you dislike him?
I mean, name one thing he is good at. "Motivating" players? Being "inspirational"? What does he do well as an NBA coach?

Also, the lack of any interview process, the fact that they didn't even try to interview any other candidates, the fact that they happen to hire the incumbent guy on the cheap ... Horrible.
Their lack of doing their job shouldn't reflect on him. I'm wondering what he has done that makes you not like him.
You and me both. I got the impression that Mori watched 48 minutes combined since Watson took over based on his comments on this board and Warrior talk in Suns game threads.
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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:I'm not a fan of this move, but it's whatever. Would of loved a guy who's won every where he's been like Jay Wright. I haven't seen enough of Watson with a healthy roster to judge him, but 9-24 with some very lopsided losses wasn't that encouraging.

On to the draft lotto
But 9-15 over the last 24. The initial 0-9 could possibly be attributed to getting all that Horny/Kieff stank outta there.
Well, that and the fact that the first 9 teams were the top teams in their divisions including the Spurs and Warriors. Yeah, there's that.
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Split T wrote:Let's not forget that the roster he had was Price, Booker, Tucker, Leuer, Len, Chandler, Teletovic, Goodwin, and Jenkins. Not exactly a rotation I'd expect any coach to win many games with. I don't love the hire, but I'm OK with it. Watson seems like a smart guy and has the respect of NBA players on our team and elsewhere.
Thank you.
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Their lack of doing their job shouldn't reflect on him. I'm wondering what he has done that makes you not like him.
He just seems like one of many coaches in the league who is just "there." I don't think he employs much strategy on either end of the floor. I haven't seen a lot of interesting plays or defensive schemes or general complexity to convince me that he is doing much more than rolling the ball out and cheerleading out there. I'm not saying he is uniquely bad in that way; many coaches suffer the same flaws. But those others are also bad. I asked previously, what tangible coaching thing does he do well? I think being unable to answer that question is a good sign that he is an unimpressive coach.
OK, I'll bite. It's amazing to me that you have no clue yet you have such strong opinions on the matter.

He is a leader of men.
He is inspiring.
He made Markieff Morris palatable so that he could be traded for a first rounder.
He gets his players to play hard and to believe in themselves.
He took over an impossible situation and did better than most anybody could have considering the circumstances.
He had to work with a string of D-Leaguers.
He has not had his own training camp.
He is adaptable based on his available personnel. (Len and Chandler twin towers.)
He is good at nuturing talent (Booker and Len; Even though Len struggled in the post, he got valuable experience).
He showed a late season ability to draw up plays on the fly.

OK, I'll stop there.
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Superbone wrote: OK, I'll bite. It's amazing to me that you have no clue yet you have such strong opinions on the matter.

He is a leader of men.
He is inspiring.
He made Markieff Morris palatable so that he could be traded for a first rounder.
He gets his players to play hard and to believe in themselves.
He took over an impossible situation and did better than most anybody could have considering the circumstances.
He had to work with a string of D-Leaguers.
He has not had his own training camp.
He is adaptable based on his available personnel. (Len and Chandler twin towers.)
He is good at nuturing talent (Booker and Len; Even though Len struggled in the post, he got valuable experience).
He showed a late season ability to draw up plays on the fly.

OK, I'll stop there.
Love ya, 'Bone, but the only thing your saying is he has the most basic head coaching skills. I'm sorry that I'm disappointed that we settled for a replacement level coach. That last one was the clincher for me... wow he was finally able to draw up plays at the end of the season? Rejoice! Doesn't that seem like a skill you should have before you're made head coach?
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carey wrote:
Superbone wrote: OK, I'll bite. It's amazing to me that you have no clue yet you have such strong opinions on the matter.

He is a leader of men.
He is inspiring.
He made Markieff Morris palatable so that he could be traded for a first rounder.
He gets his players to play hard and to believe in themselves.
He took over an impossible situation and did better than most anybody could have considering the circumstances.
He had to work with a string of D-Leaguers.
He has not had his own training camp.
He is adaptable based on his available personnel. (Len and Chandler twin towers.)
He is good at nuturing talent (Booker and Len; Even though Len struggled in the post, he got valuable experience).
He showed a late season ability to draw up plays on the fly.

OK, I'll stop there.
Love ya, 'Bone, but the only thing your saying is he has the most basic head coaching skills. I'm sorry that I'm disappointed that we settled for a replacement level coach. That last one was the clincher for me... wow he was finally able to draw up plays at the end of the season? Rejoice! Doesn't that seem like a skill you should have before you're made head coach?
Jeff was terrible at it. Most rank Scott Brooks as one of the best available, yet all he knew was iso.

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carey wrote:That last one was the clincher for me... wow he was finally able to draw up plays at the end of the season? Rejoice! Doesn't that seem like a skill you should have before you're made head coach?
There are many important qualities that a good coach needs to have. Watson has been a hard worker all throughout his life. I have no doubts that he will work hard to improve his X/O's this offseason and be more than competent this coming season. Plus, McDonough has already mentioned wanting to fill his staff with very strong strategy coaches for both offense and defense. So no, I don't think it's important that the new coach is strong in every area. Very few coaches are. Even ones that have been doing it for a long time.

I contend that Watson has the potential to become one of the top coaches in this league. McDonough often compares him to Doc Rivers who was very similar to Watson as being a student of the game and becoming a coach with even less experience than even Watson. He became a pretty darn good coach and has a championship under his belt.
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At this point I'm just like meh whatever...

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Superbone wrote: There are many important qualities that a good coach needs to have. Watson has been a hard worker all throughout his life. I have no doubts that he will work hard to improve his X/O's this offseason and be more than competent this coming season. Plus, McDonough has already mentioned wanting to fill his staff with very strong strategy coaches for both offense and defense. So no, I don't think it's important that the new coach is strong in every area. Very few coaches are. Even ones that have been doing it for a long time.

I contend that Watson has the potential to become one of the top coaches in this league. McDonough often compares him to Doc Rivers who was very similar to Watson as being a student of the game and becoming a coach with even less experience than even Watson. He became a pretty darn good coach and has a championship under his belt.
You might be forgetting that EVERYONE in Boston wanted Doc's head on a platter before the moves were made to give him 2 future Hall of Famers. So maybe if our F.O. can turn out a couple moves like that I'll fall in line with the rest of you.

The only thing I know about Watson, and I mean concrete without a doubt knowledge, is that people like hearing the guy talk. The rest is way up in the air and we are entrusting the development of our next potential star to an unknown quantity.
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carey wrote:
Superbone wrote: There are many important qualities that a good coach needs to have. Watson has been a hard worker all throughout his life. I have no doubts that he will work hard to improve his X/O's this offseason and be more than competent this coming season. Plus, McDonough has already mentioned wanting to fill his staff with very strong strategy coaches for both offense and defense. So no, I don't think it's important that the new coach is strong in every area. Very few coaches are. Even ones that have been doing it for a long time.

I contend that Watson has the potential to become one of the top coaches in this league. McDonough often compares him to Doc Rivers who was very similar to Watson as being a student of the game and becoming a coach with even less experience than even Watson. He became a pretty darn good coach and has a championship under his belt.
You might be forgetting that EVERYONE in Boston wanted Doc's head on a platter before the moves were made to give him 2 future Hall of Famers. So maybe if our F.O. can turn out a couple moves like that I'll fall in line with the rest of you.

The only thing I know about Watson, and I mean concrete without a doubt knowledge, is that people like hearing the guy talk. The rest is way up in the air and we are entrusting the development of our next potential star to an unknown quantity.
Just shows how important talent is to winning. It doesn't matter how good of a coach you are without it. There's no Riley without Kobe and Shaq. No Pop without Duncan, Parker, Ginobili. No Kerr without Curry/Green/Thompson/Igoudala.
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Mori Chu wrote: I haven't seen a lot of interesting plays or defensive schemes or general complexity
That's awfully tough to add when you take over mid-season, especially with a depleted roster.
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Superbone wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
As a result, we have begun winning basketball games as well.
Our second to last game of the season we lost to an atrocious Kings team that was resting its best players and had quit on their coach.
And beat a Rockets team desperate for wins in Houston the game before. What's your point? Young teams are inconsistent.
You mean the same Rockets team that lost their season series to Denver?

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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:I'm not a fan of this move, but it's whatever. Would of loved a guy who's won every where he's been like Jay Wright. I haven't seen enough of Watson with a healthy roster to judge him, but 9-24 with some very lopsided losses wasn't that encouraging.

On to the draft lotto
But 9-15 over the last 24. The initial 0-9 could possibly be attributed to getting all that Horny/Kieff stank outta there.
Classic case of the reasoning of the current regime.

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Superbone wrote:No Kerr without Curry/Green/Thompson/Igoudala.
That goes both ways. How far did that group get before Kerr got there?

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INFORMER wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:I'm not a fan of this move, but it's whatever. Would of loved a guy who's won every where he's been like Jay Wright. I haven't seen enough of Watson with a healthy roster to judge him, but 9-24 with some very lopsided losses wasn't that encouraging.

On to the draft lotto
But 9-15 over the last 24. The initial 0-9 could possibly be attributed to getting all that Horny/Kieff stank outta there.
Classic case of the reasoning of the current regime.
Meh. Why be negative when everyone else already has it covered?
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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:I'm not a fan of this move, but it's whatever. Would of loved a guy who's won every where he's been like Jay Wright. I haven't seen enough of Watson with a healthy roster to judge him, but 9-24 with some very lopsided losses wasn't that encouraging.

On to the draft lotto
But 9-15 over the last 24. The initial 0-9 could possibly be attributed to getting all that Horny/Kieff stank outta there.
Classic case of the reasoning of the current regime.
Meh. Why be negative when everyone else already has it covered?
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