Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)

[JeremyG]

I just want to win a championship man.

Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.

Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

CP3 is too old to do what he did in 2021. If he was still younger, then sure you could make an argument to keep him, in pursuit of a championship.

[JeremyG]

Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.

Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

My point is that paying him a max deal, whether overpaid or not, can help us toward our goal of winning a championship.

Oy, in a system without a salary cap, sure. But this isn't baseball. You can't just throw money at people to build a team.

If you use your high salaries in trades before they expire (such as trading CP3 for Kyrie), you can keep building the team. The Warriors were even able to turn a free agent (KD) into DLo through a S&T and then trade DLo for Wiggins.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.

Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

CP3 is too old to do what he did in 2021. If he was still younger, then sure you could make an argument to keep him, in pursuit of a championship.

On both sentences: "Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea" and "Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him." it's about judging present performance vs past achievements, throwing age just right now is highly convenient just to keep deflecting how mediocre Ayton has been... besides, 2021 it's just so far distant to keep milking it.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.

Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

Also Booker was pretty decent.

Meh, according to our in-house experts, he is most likely to be traded than Ayton!!!

[TOO]

Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

Also Booker was pretty decent.

Meh, according to our in-house experts, he is most likely to be traded than Ayton!!!

He's no Ayton.

[JeremyG]

Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

Also Booker was pretty decent.

Meh, according to our in-house experts, he is most likely to be traded than Ayton!!!

Never said that.

[JeremyG]

Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

CP3 is too old to do what he did in 2021. If he was still younger, then sure you could make an argument to keep him, in pursuit of a championship.

On both sentences: "Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea" and "Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him." it's about judging present performance vs past achievements, throwing age just right now is highly convenient just to keep deflecting how mediocre Ayton has been... besides, 2021 it's just so far distant to keep milking it.

The context before where you started quoting was winning championships—thus why I mentioned the 2021 Finals. It had nothing to do with so-called “distant” past vs. present. Ayton has proven he is capable of helping a team reach the Finals, and has shown no reason presently to think he can’t do the same again (unlike Paul, who has declined due to age).

I swear I’ve never seen a fanbase complain so much that a player steps up his game for the playoffs. You would think it would make people consider him to be more valuable, not less.

[AmareIsGod]

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

CP3 is too old to do what he did in 2021. If he was still younger, then sure you could make an argument to keep him, in pursuit of a championship.

On both sentences: "Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea" and "Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him." it's about judging present performance vs past achievements, throwing age just right now is highly convenient just to keep deflecting how mediocre Ayton has been... besides, 2021 it's just so far distant to keep milking it.

The context before where you started quoting was winning championships—thus why I mentioned the 2021 Finals. It had nothing to do with so-called “distant” past vs. present. Ayton has proven he is capable of helping a team reach the Finals, and has shown no reason presently to think he can’t do the same again (unlike Paul, who has declined due to age).

I swear I’ve never seen a fanbase complain so much that a player steps up his game for the playoffs. You would think it would make people consider him to be more valuable, not less.

We're not talking about the series vs Dallas last year are we? Did they even have a dominant center that was shutting down Ayton or was it a case of him not rising up when he plays against smaller teams?

[The Bobster]

Fuck, This shit just never ends.

[specialsauce]

Fuck, This shit just never ends.

The horse was murdered, given CPR, brought back, murdered, given a heart transplant, murdered again. Just let the damn horse die y’all, never going to convince JG that DAs shits smell anything less than a million dollars and never going to convince every other suns fan that DA is worth his contract

[Wally_West]

Fuck, This shit just never ends.

[JeremyG]

Yeah, it's getting pretty old that every time I discuss anything, people have to try to bring Ayton into it.

[Kryptonic]

Fuck, This shit just never ends.

You know the definition of insanity, right?

[specialsauce]

Yeah, it's getting pretty old that every time I discuss anything, people have to try to bring Ayton into it.

You don’t do yourself any favors either, but you’re right on this thread

[Aztec Sunsfan]

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

CP3 is too old to do what he did in 2021. If he was still younger, then sure you could make an argument to keep him, in pursuit of a championship.

On both sentences: "Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea" and "Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him." it's about judging present performance vs past achievements, throwing age just right now is highly convenient just to keep deflecting how mediocre Ayton has been... besides, 2021 it's just so far distant to keep milking it.

The context before where you started quoting was winning championships—thus why I mentioned the 2021 Finals. It had nothing to do with so-called “distant” past vs. present. Ayton has proven he is capable of helping a team reach the Finals, and has shown no reason presently to think he can’t do the same again (unlike Paul, who has declined due to age).

I swear I’ve never seen a fanbase complain so much that a player steps up his game for the playoffs. You would think it would make people consider him to be more valuable, not less.

We're not talking about the series vs Dallas last year are we? Did they even have a dominant center that was shutting down Ayton or was it a case of him not rising up when he plays against smaller teams?

Not only the Dallas series is more recent, but we can as well return to that magic ‘21 run and still find out that we didn’t win it all, and a big part of it was that Ayton’s lunch was eaten by Giannis, and by the way Jeremy, you didn’t said “reaching” was the context, but “winning”, so, under that measure, both Paul and Ayton have nothing to show for it, except that Paul had walked that path more times, and before you pivot back to play the age card, or whatever picky argument that makes you feel better, lets leave it here, Ayton is great, you are right, the vast majority of the world is wrong.

Maybe one of the best parts of the Kirye-to-Suns trade falling apart it’s avoiding the risk that you started to believe the earth is flat and pushing it here endlessly!!!

[Aztec Sunsfan]

I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.

Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?

Also Booker was pretty decent.

Meh, according to our in-house experts, he is most likely to be traded than Ayton!!!

Never said that.

Of course you didn’t, I was joking, as anyone could tell the moment I wrote “in-house-experts”… again it just some ribbing, great to see around here again, even if we rarely agree on Ayton’s.

[JeremyG]

Yeah, it's getting pretty old that every time I discuss anything, people have to try to bring Ayton into it.

You don’t do yourself any favors either, but you’re right on this thread

Yeah, admittedly I did bring DA into another discussion recently.

[INFORMER]

Everybody "wants" Phoenix, yet nobody is there. Suns are the just pivot man in the media circle jerk.

Seems like Tsai might be a little vindictive and not wanting to send anyone where they want

Or maybe he just isn't going to bend to the will of his players that have no leverage.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

Everybody "wants" Phoenix, yet nobody is there. Suns are the just pivot man in the media circle jerk.

Seems like Tsai might be a little vindictive and not wanting to send anyone where they want

Or maybe he just isn't going to bend to the will of his players that have no leverage.

It’s a truly slippery slope, Team owners versus Players, specially Stars.

[Split T]

Everybody "wants" Phoenix, yet nobody is there. Suns are the just pivot man in the media circle jerk.

Seems like Tsai might be a little vindictive and not wanting to send anyone where they want

Or maybe he just isn't going to bend to the will of his players that have no leverage.

Perhaps, but there was a report that literally said he the goal was to not send Kyrie to the Lakers.