Around the League: July 2014

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Xylus wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:What could/would the Suns send to Minni, in the wake of a Kevin Love, to make them agree? It would need to be a semi-premium package/asset. LAL's?
Is the Lakers pick tradeable? Can you trade the same pick multiple times?
We haven't traded that pick. It's still ours, top5 protected, so we can move it whenever we want.

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Ring_Wanted wrote:
Xylus wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:What could/would the Suns send to Minni, in the wake of a Kevin Love, to make them agree? It would need to be a semi-premium package/asset. LAL's?
Is the Lakers pick tradeable? Can you trade the same pick multiple times?
We haven't traded that pick. It's still ours, top5 protected, so we can move it whenever we want.
I just wasn't sure if teams are allowed to trade a pick once it's been acquired by another team. ;)

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Xylus wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Xylus wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:What could/would the Suns send to Minni, in the wake of a Kevin Love, to make them agree? It would need to be a semi-premium package/asset. LAL's?
Is the Lakers pick tradeable? Can you trade the same pick multiple times?
We haven't traded that pick. It's still ours, top5 protected, so we can move it whenever we want.
I just wasn't sure if teams are allowed to trade a pick once it's been acquired by another team. ;)
I don't understand. The Lakers can't trade their pick again because it belongs to Phoenix now, but the Suns can do as they please with it. Phoenix has not done anything the pick after acquiring it in the Nash sign and trade.

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Ring_Wanted wrote:
Xylus wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Xylus wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:What could/would the Suns send to Minni, in the wake of a Kevin Love, to make them agree? It would need to be a semi-premium package/asset. LAL's?
Is the Lakers pick tradeable? Can you trade the same pick multiple times?
We haven't traded that pick. It's still ours, top5 protected, so we can move it whenever we want.
I just wasn't sure if teams are allowed to trade a pick once it's been acquired by another team. ;)
I don't understand. The Lakers can't trade their pick again because it belongs to Phoenix now, but the Suns can do as they please with it. Phoenix has not done anything the pick after acquiring it in the Nash sign and trade.
Team 1 (Lakers) trade pick to Team 2 (PHX). Can Team 2 trade that pick to a Team 3..? That was my question, but you've answered it already.

There are a lot of weird rules in the CBA about trading, some of which I don't fully understand. I wasn't sure if there existed a rule about trading a pick multiple times.

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INFORMER wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:I've seen articles saying that Chris Paul won't play if the Clips are still owned by Donald Sterling at the start of the season. I've also seen ones saying that Doc won't coach if Sterling is still around.

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/542976

I get the idea there, but, doesn't it take a long time for this legal process to go through? They may be totally unable to get him out by training camp simply due to the realities of the legal process and the fact that Donald Sterling can appeal rulings and drag out proceedings and so on. Do they really want to say that they won't play? It's not like the league is not doing all it can do to get him out. It just seems silly to me. You can't demand a court case be totally done by a certain very fast-approaching date.
I was going to post and comment on that too. I think it's preposterous. What's the point of not coaching or playing? I could understand if the NBA/Silver hadn't done anything. But they did. It's a legal matter now, and as you mention, it takes time. The legal system doesn't run on the NBA's timetable, and it's bigger than the NBA or any sport. This is about contract law, ownership of property, etc.

Do they think they will be punishing Sterling if they don't play/coach? I doubt he gives a crap. All he cares about is sticking to anyone who tries to tell him what to do or take what belongs to him. If $2 BILLION doesn't compel him to relinquish ownership of the team, do you think a player or coach is going to make a difference?

All Doc and/or Chris will be doing is hurting their teammates, the fans, and the league.
and that's what sterling wants, for them to make a FOOL of themselves.

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random thoughts:

1) our own david griffin is the luckiest GM in the nba today.

2) lebron left miami so his friend wade wouldnt be pressured to take a huge pay cut. lebron would have stayed btw if the heat won the title.

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3) is aaron paul lebron james' david falk? how's david falk doing now post-jordan retirement?

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Falk still represents several players including Greg Monroe, Roy Hibbert, Elton Brand, Otto Porter, Evan Turner, Austin Rivers and Jeff Green.

Not quite the same as representing Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Moses Malone, Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning, Allen Iverson, James Worthy and Dominique Wilkins however.
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Right. The guys he's representing now make more money.
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Cap wrote:Right. The guys he's representing now make more money.
well, in 1986, larry bird made only $1.8 million that year and the veteran's minimum back then is only $75K.

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SDC wrote:3) is aaron paul lebron james' david falk? how's david falk doing now post-jordan retirement?
When he's not pretending to cook meth with Bryan Cranston, I believe he is.

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Didn't Magic Johnson sign a 25-year, $25m deal with the Lakers in the '80s? LOL. Probably sounded like sweet money at the time. That deal would just be ending next year!

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That contract was a personal services contract with the franchise to act in a variety of capacities. I'm fairly certain it was above/beyond his player contract.
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

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looks like we're back to 2000-2004 dream team with all the good players dropping out and colangelo has to settle for scraps.

i wont be surprised if the USA ends up being eliminated in the semis #lettheblamegamebegin

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SDC wrote:looks like we're back to 2000-2004 dream team with all the good players dropping out and colangelo has to settle for scraps.

i wont be surprised if the USA ends up being eliminated in the semis #lettheblamegamebegin
Isnt Durant still on the team?

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da_suns_fan wrote:
SDC wrote:looks like we're back to 2000-2004 dream team with all the good players dropping out and colangelo has to settle for scraps.

i wont be surprised if the USA ends up being eliminated in the semis #lettheblamegamebegin
Isnt Durant still on the team?
duncan and wade were on the 2004 team and they got spanked by puerto rico.

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Shabazz wrote:
SDC wrote:3) is aaron paul lebron james' david falk? how's david falk doing now post-jordan retirement?
When he's not pretending to cook meth with Bryan Cranston, I believe he is.
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Dan H wrote:"Sign the contract, bitch!"
We want the max, 5 years 80 mill, yo!

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... l-As-Agent

Mark Jackson To Reportedly Hire Rich Paul As Agent

Good luck with that. I guess Jackson will be looking for the max coaching salary. I hope he's not screwed by the CBA.
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Marion's son to be a Texan but he doesn't plan on re-signing with Dallas:

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -With-Mavs
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