Well you got me. What I really meant is stay the fuck out of my business.
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Beginning of a rebuild: disregard wins, amass assets and talent, regardless of fit.pickle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:12 pmAgree with the assessment on Jackson, but disagree on the fact that he doesn't suit us. I'm not sure what the difference is between the beginning of a rebuild and an end of a rebuild, but we are not challenging for a playoff spot for 2 years, realistically speaking, and we still must focus on player development. As for the "not that young as a prospect" stuff I also respectfully disagree. He was 20 when he was a rookie, not 19 or 18... but he is still just 21 years old, barely able to drink. If he can't figure it out by time he's 23 or 24, then I'd be really worried. As far as I'm concerned last year was a lost year. if he really can play under control and figure out his strengths and focus on D, I still have hopes that he'll be an important rotational piece on a championship contender in 3 years. A #4 pick that turns out to be the #3 guy in a real contender is not bad. As a Suns fan, I'll take that all day.
Yeah it sucks that Sarver thinks we are targeting the playoffs, but honestly by your definition I'd say we are still in early to middle phase of the rebuild. We are not close to winning yet.Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:49 amBeginning of a rebuild: disregard wins, amass assets and talent, regardless of fit.pickle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:12 pmAgree with the assessment on Jackson, but disagree on the fact that he doesn't suit us. I'm not sure what the difference is between the beginning of a rebuild and an end of a rebuild, but we are not challenging for a playoff spot for 2 years, realistically speaking, and we still must focus on player development. As for the "not that young as a prospect" stuff I also respectfully disagree. He was 20 when he was a rookie, not 19 or 18... but he is still just 21 years old, barely able to drink. If he can't figure it out by time he's 23 or 24, then I'd be really worried. As far as I'm concerned last year was a lost year. if he really can play under control and figure out his strengths and focus on D, I still have hopes that he'll be an important rotational piece on a championship contender in 3 years. A #4 pick that turns out to be the #3 guy in a real contender is not bad. As a Suns fan, I'll take that all day.
End of a rebuild: aim for wins, assemble a team that makes sense around the core of kids you acquired during the earlier stages.
Jackson is a talent, but pretty raw. To the point that it is starting to look that he is going to be a net negative on the court. You can afford to wait for him if you have some years ahead where you don't plan to compete, but for better or worse that's not the plan anymore. Then you have the logjam issue at the wings, which makes him even more expendable.
Again, I wouldn't just dump him, but I'd want to know his value around the league.
Now that the Good Doctor is gone, we are getting AD and Lillard next year to fill those whole. Haven't you heard?Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:55 amWe are not close to winning not because we don't intend to (which we do, at least going by the official line), but because the FO couldn't design and/or execute a solid plan to bring balance to this roster, despite all the assets available.
Booker-Ayton is a monster core, and with them you can absolutely enter a season under a win now mindset, but you need the right kind of veteran role players (plus a third option, which I want to believe we already have in TJ). Supposedly they tried, but it looks like they failed miserably, given the gigantic holes in our roster at PG and PF.
It cost us 2 picks to get Bridges.Split T wrote:I wouldn't count George King as a wasted resource. He was a late, late 2nd on a 2 way deal.
So we signed one to a 1 year deal and drafted 1. Chances are Bridges won't be ready for big time minutes, so he gets a year to learn behind Ariza. Plus all 4 of our SF can play 2-3 positions. It's not the logjam many on here claim it is.
A PG would be nice. There is definitely an argument to be made for drafting SGA ahead of Bridges. Or using our cap space to sign one. We did sign a PG, draft a PG, and trade for a PG. Just not one that seems ready for starter level minutes.
Very possible. There were reports that they were trying to trade Warren for a point guard.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:48 pmThe conspiracy bug in my brain is telling me that they went after Bridges because they think he'll be better than Jackson and TJ, which allows them to trade either or both to get a star player. I'm reluctant to believe they'll be able to pull that off, so we're stuck with three young guys who play the same position.
Honestly I think this post is giving McDo too much credit for long-term planning and thinking about how players fit together. I think he just saw Bridges and decided he liked him as a player and moved to get him as an asset. I doubt he really thought about our SF rotation or our roster as a whole.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:48 pmThe conspiracy bug in my brain is telling me that they went after Bridges because they think he'll be better than Jackson and TJ, which allows them to trade either or both to get a star player. I'm reluctant to believe they'll be able to pull that off, so we're stuck with three young guys who play the same position.