Game Day: Spurs (4-2) @ Suns (1-5), Wed 10/31/18

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Re: Game Day: Spurs (4-2) @ Suns (1-5), Wed 10/31/18

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INFORMER wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:29 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:16 pm
I'm afraid for Igor's job at this point.
JJJ and Sarver didn't look too happy.
Unhappy enough to sell?
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I will say it again fire Igor. The players have no respect whatsoever for him. Nobody cares at the moment :evil:
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Pop yawning he's so bored.
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This is just been a terrible mix of things to lead to this awful start.
1. Tough schedule
2. Missing Booker(Preseason and last 3 games)
3. Getting comfortable with new coach/system/players
4. Not enough reliable ball handlers
5. Poor veteran play

My hope rests in
1. We'll eventually play other bad teams
2. Booker will get healthy
3. We should get more comfortable with teammates/system
4. Not sure this one is getting fixed
5. Vets cant be any worse

Right now we've got two special offensive players that need a lot of work defensively. And another good offensive player who also needs work defensively. Bridges looks like a pretty good fit next to them and Okobo and Melton are still solid prospects.

I have no idea what Jackson is doing this year and it's time to put Bridges above him in the rotation.

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It is simply amazing how quickly Igor has lost the players. Is he trying to institute a system that does not fit the players?

That being said, there are clear positives. Pretty much the entire starting lineup except JJ looked good for most of the first quarter, although I'm not sure if the Spurs simply weren't executing at first. And even JJ was trying his role player thing except that crazy pull-back jumper. If Ayton's jumper were on, the Suns would have been up 6 pts before the Suns took out Okobo and put in Melton -- who just isn't a point guard.

None of the veterans except Ariza deserve to play, so I'd simply start playing the young guys in the starting lineup close to 40 minutes per game. Make this a trial by fire.

The Suns' early season is just a gauntlet, and I can see them having a rough November before things start gelling in December. But I can see them doing quite well against non-elite teams later in the season.

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I think Igor is making things too complex/complicated for them.
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Split T wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:46 pm
Right now we've got two special offensive players that need a lot of work defensively.
About that: everyone got all nervous when Booker declared he isn't missing the playoffs again, which served to be the catalyst for "WIN NOW!" movement, but honestly, the response to that declaration should have been, "Great, Devin, you're planning on figuring out how to actually stop your man on the defensive end?"

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INFORMER wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:13 pm
STOP SAYING THE LONG TERM PLAN IS TO HAVE DEVIN BOOKER PLAY THE POINT!
and if the suns acquired beverley, that's the implication!

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Damn. I lost my job today and then came home and watched this. What a day. What a beating.
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Democritus wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:38 pm
I will say it again fire Igor. The players have no respect whatsoever for him. Nobody cares at the moment :evil:
I’m down for just about any change, but to me this is a joke.

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djy2j wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:04 pm
Damn. I lost my job today and then came home and watched this. What a day. What a beating.
Screw the Suns. What happened?!

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djy2j wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:04 pm
Damn. I lost my job today and then came home and watched this. What a day. What a beating.
Sorry to hear dude hope you land on your feet

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INFORMER wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:46 pm
Right now we've got two special offensive players that need a lot of work defensively.
About that: everyone got all nervous when Booker declared he isn't missing the playoffs again, which served to be the catalyst for "WIN NOW!" movement, but honestly, the response to that declaration should have been, "Great, Devin, you're planning on figuring out how to actually stop your man on the defensive end?"
this team has no leadership. i suggested trading josh jackson and chandler for dragic, but cap says no.

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INFORMER wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:46 pm
Right now we've got two special offensive players that need a lot of work defensively.
About that: everyone got all nervous when Booker declared he isn't missing the playoffs again, which served to be the catalyst for "WIN NOW!" movement, but honestly, the response to that declaration should have been, "Great, Devin, you're planning on figuring out how to actually stop your man on the defensive end?"
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:29 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:21 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:16 pm
I'm afraid for Igor's job at this point. 7 straight blowouts? How can any coach survive a stretch like that?
Tonight makes 6. Don't get too far ahead. :lol:
Oh I already counted the Toronto game. It wasn't a typo or mistake.
Man this is all on the owner and GM. This is a personnel issue not coaching IMO. You have too many players that aren’t smart and can’t shoot.

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SDC wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:09 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:46 pm
Right now we've got two special offensive players that need a lot of work defensively.
About that: everyone got all nervous when Booker declared he isn't missing the playoffs again, which served to be the catalyst for "WIN NOW!" movement, but honestly, the response to that declaration should have been, "Great, Devin, you're planning on figuring out how to actually stop your man on the defensive end?"
this team has no leadership. i suggested trading josh jackson and chandler for dragic, but cap says no.
In the offseason I would have said you’re crazy, but I actually think Miami might say no to that offer the way Jackson has played this season

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In2ition wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:16 pm
I'm afraid for Igor's job at this point. 7 straight blowouts? How can any coach survive a stretch like that?
Sarver would be an idiot to fire Igor, therefore, I fully expect that will happen.

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specialsauce wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:15 pm
SDC wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:09 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:46 pm
Right now we've got two special offensive players that need a lot of work defensively.
About that: everyone got all nervous when Booker declared he isn't missing the playoffs again, which served to be the catalyst for "WIN NOW!" movement, but honestly, the response to that declaration should have been, "Great, Devin, you're planning on figuring out how to actually stop your man on the defensive end?"
this team has no leadership. i suggested trading josh jackson and chandler for dragic, but cap says no.
In the offseason I would have said you’re crazy, but I actually think Miami might say no to that offer the way Jackson has played this season
Jackson is G League trash at this point. He does nothing well.

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INFORMER wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:29 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:16 pm
I'm afraid for Igor's job at this point.
JJJ and Sarver didn't look too happy.
That's what you get for accelerating the timeline after 1 year.

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iLLmatic wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:17 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:29 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:16 pm
I'm afraid for Igor's job at this point.
JJJ and Sarver didn't look too happy.
That's what you get for accelerating the timeline after 1 year.
Has the timeline been accelerated? Really? Doesn’t look like it to me. Looks like we’re headed for another top 3 pick.

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