Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

[gosuns]

Good timing 'Bazz.

Gambo goes off on the Suns. Do yourselves a favor and start at 1:30 so you don't have to hear about Gambo's young wife getting offered candy because she looks so young.

https://omny.fm/shows/burns-gambo/novem ... -1-6-start

I hope I didn't sound that hysterical in your mind when you read my post.

But I agree with him that Ariza has looked like he's been interested in nothing but cashing his checks twice a month since he got here.

What exactly did you expect from Trevor freaking Ariza? He is a 3 and D guy, which means he stands in the corner and shoots on offense and he guards his man on Defense, which most nights is the best player of the opposing team, which on most nights is unstoppable anyway. It’s not his fault the Suns signed him to that ridiculous contract. We had wings, we didn’t even really need him.

[Cap]

Worst teams ever, by Margin Of Victory:

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Rk    Season  Tm  Lg  G  W  L W/L%    MOV
1    1992-93 DAL NBA 82 11 71 .134 -15.20
2    2018-19 PHO NBA  7  1  6 .143 -14.71
3    2011-12 CHA NBA 66  7 59 .106 -13.91
4    1972-73 PHI NBA 82  9 73 .110 -12.09
5    1997-98 DEN NBA 82 11 71 .134 -11.78
6    1982-83 HOU NBA 82 14 68 .171 -11.60
7    1947-48 PRO BAA 48  6 42 .125 -11.56
8    1999-00 LAC NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.52
9    1949-50 DNN NBA 62 11 51 .177 -11.50
10   1986-87 LAC NBA 82 12 70 .146 -11.43
11   1988-89 MIA NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.23
12   1970-71 CLE NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.17

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/1/2018.

[JeremyG]

Good timing 'Bazz.

Gambo goes off on the Suns. Do yourselves a favor and start at 1:30 so you don't have to hear about Gambo's young wife getting offered candy because she looks so young.

https://omny.fm/shows/burns-gambo/novem ... -1-6-start

I hope I didn't sound that hysterical in your mind when you read my post.

But I agree with him that Ariza has looked like he's been interested in nothing but cashing his checks twice a month since he got here.

What exactly did you expect from Trevor freaking Ariza? He is a 3 and D guy, which means he stands in the corner and shoots on offense and he guards his man on Defense, which most nights is the best player of the opposing team, which on most nights is unstoppable anyway. It’s not his fault the Suns signed him to that ridiculous contract. We had wings, we didn’t even really need him.

He is a 3 and D guy who has been a poor 3-point shooter for most of his career.

[Superbone]

I'm with Gambo, except I put top 4 protection on the '19 pick and try to go get Kemba or Rozier. Then, on Dec 15th, I trade for Love with another package of some sort.

Kemba and Rozier shouldn't be uttered in the same sentence. Rozier is two tiers below Walker.

[AmareIsGod]

Worst teams ever, by Margin Of Victory:

Code: Select all

                                         
                                     Misc
Rk    Season  Tm  Lg  G  W  L W/L%    MOV
1    1992-93 DAL NBA 82 11 71 .134 -15.20
2    2018-19 PHO NBA  7  1  6 .143 -14.71
3    2011-12 CHA NBA 66  7 59 .106 -13.91
4    1972-73 PHI NBA 82  9 73 .110 -12.09
5    1997-98 DEN NBA 82 11 71 .134 -11.78
6    1982-83 HOU NBA 82 14 68 .171 -11.60
7    1947-48 PRO BAA 48  6 42 .125 -11.56
8    1999-00 LAC NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.52
9    1949-50 DNN NBA 62 11 51 .177 -11.50
10   1986-87 LAC NBA 82 12 70 .146 -11.43
11   1988-89 MIA NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.23
12   1970-71 CLE NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.17

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/1/2018.

And yet last season, which I thought was historically bad, we only had a margin of 9.37 which was the 33rd worst all time.

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                                     Misc
Rk    Season  Tm  Lg  G  W  L W/L%    MOV
1    1992-93 DAL NBA 82 11 71 .134 -15.20
2    2018-19 PHO NBA  7  1  6 .143 -14.71
3    2011-12 CHA NBA 66  7 59 .106 -13.91
4    1972-73 PHI NBA 82  9 73 .110 -12.09
5    1997-98 DEN NBA 82 11 71 .134 -11.78
6    1982-83 HOU NBA 82 14 68 .171 -11.60
7    1947-48 PRO BAA 48  6 42 .125 -11.56
8    1999-00 LAC NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.52
9    1949-50 DNN NBA 62 11 51 .177 -11.50
10   1986-87 LAC NBA 82 12 70 .146 -11.43
11   1988-89 MIA NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.23
12   1970-71 CLE NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.17
13   1990-91 DEN NBA 82 20 62 .244 -10.91
14   2018-19 WAS NBA  7  1  6 .143 -10.57
15   2018-19 HOU NBA  6  1  5 .167 -10.50
16   2013-14 PHI NBA 82 19 63 .232 -10.45
17   1987-88 LAC NBA 82 17 65 .207 -10.32
18   2015-16 PHI NBA 82 10 72 .122 -10.23
19   1996-97 VAN NBA 82 14 68 .171 -10.23
20   2018-19 ORL NBA  7  2  5 .286 -10.14
21   1995-96 PHI NBA 82 18 64 .220 -10.00
22   1995-96 VAN NBA 82 15 67 .183  -9.98
23   1988-89 LAC NBA 82 21 61 .256  -9.91
24   1971-72 POR NBA 82 18 64 .220  -9.73
25   1989-90 MIA NBA 82 18 64 .220  -9.72
26   2004-05 ATL NBA 82 13 69 .159  -9.71
27   2002-03 CLE NBA 82 17 65 .207  -9.62
28   2009-10 MIN NBA 82 15 67 .183  -9.60
29   2015-16 LAL NBA 82 17 65 .207  -9.56
30   1998-99 CHI NBA 50 13 37 .260  -9.46
31   2005-06 POR NBA 82 21 61 .256  -9.45
32   1999-00 CHI NBA 82 17 65 .207  -9.40
33   2017-18 PHO NBA 82 21 61 .256  -9.37

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/1/2018.

[In2ition]

I'm with Gambo, except I put top 4 protection on the '19 pick and try to go get Kemba or Rozier. Then, on Dec 15th, I trade for Love with another package of some sort.

Kemba and Rozier shouldn't be uttered in the same sentence. Rozier is two tiers below Walker.

I agree, but I doubt that Charlotte makes Kemba available.

[Superbone]

Good timing 'Bazz.

Gambo goes off on the Suns. Do yourselves a favor and start at 1:30 so you don't have to hear about Gambo's young wife getting offered candy because she looks so young.

https://omny.fm/shows/burns-gambo/novem ... -1-6-start

I hope I didn't sound that hysterical in your mind when you read my post.

But I agree with him that Ariza has looked like he's been interested in nothing but cashing his checks twice a month since he got here.

What exactly did you expect from Trevor freaking Ariza? He is a 3 and D guy, which means he stands in the corner and shoots on offense and he guards his man on Defense, which most nights is the best player of the opposing team, which on most nights is unstoppable anyway. It’s not his fault the Suns signed him to that ridiculous contract. We had wings, we didn’t even really need him.

That's a good point. Just because Sarver and company targeted him and pays him 15 million dollars doesn't mean he's worth it or he will be a difference maker for us. Why didn't we target a PG and/or PF? We hurt Houston more than we helped ourselves.

[Superbone]

And yet last season, which I thought was historically bad, we only had a margin of 9.37 which was the 33rd worst all time.

Yeah, but what were we after 7 games last year? Probably pretty similar.

[Superbone]

I'm with Gambo, except I put top 4 protection on the '19 pick and try to go get Kemba or Rozier. Then, on Dec 15th, I trade for Love with another package of some sort.

Kemba and Rozier shouldn't be uttered in the same sentence. Rozier is two tiers below Walker.

I agree, but I doubt that Charlotte makes Kemba available.

Very true. For some weird reason, NBA teams don't like giving up their best player. Strange.

[Shabazz]

Good timing 'Bazz.

Gambo goes off on the Suns. Do yourselves a favor and start at 1:30 so you don't have to hear about Gambo's young wife getting offered candy because she looks so young.

https://omny.fm/shows/burns-gambo/novem ... -1-6-start

I hope I didn't sound that hysterical in your mind when you read my post.

But I agree with him that Ariza has looked like he's been interested in nothing but cashing his checks twice a month since he got here.

What exactly did you expect from Trevor freaking Ariza? He is a 3 and D guy, which means he stands in the corner and shoots on offense and he guards his man on Defense, which most nights is the best player of the opposing team, which on most nights is unstoppable anyway. It’s not his fault the Suns signed him to that ridiculous contract. We had wings, we didn’t even really need him.

Honestly, I never expected more than hitting 3s, playing D and putting in effort. He's doing none of those things.

[Superbone]

Good timing 'Bazz.

Gambo goes off on the Suns. Do yourselves a favor and start at 1:30 so you don't have to hear about Gambo's young wife getting offered candy because she looks so young.

https://omny.fm/shows/burns-gambo/novem ... -1-6-start

I hope I didn't sound that hysterical in your mind when you read my post.

But I agree with him that Ariza has looked like he's been interested in nothing but cashing his checks twice a month since he got here.

What exactly did you expect from Trevor freaking Ariza? He is a 3 and D guy, which means he stands in the corner and shoots on offense and he guards his man on Defense, which most nights is the best player of the opposing team, which on most nights is unstoppable anyway. It’s not his fault the Suns signed him to that ridiculous contract. We had wings, we didn’t even really need him.

Honestly, I never expected more than hitting 3s, playing D and putting in effort. He's doing none of those things.

Nope. I 100% prefer watching Bridges play the game. He's working on D and making things happen and shows some fire. Ariza is stealing hard cold cash right now.

[TOO]

Good timing 'Bazz.

Gambo goes off on the Suns. Do yourselves a favor and start at 1:30 so you don't have to hear about Gambo's young wife getting offered candy because she looks so young.

https://omny.fm/shows/burns-gambo/novem ... -1-6-start

I hope I didn't sound that hysterical in your mind when you read my post.

But I agree with him that Ariza has looked like he's been interested in nothing but cashing his checks twice a month since he got here.

What exactly did you expect from Trevor freaking Ariza? He is a 3 and D guy, which means he stands in the corner and shoots on offense and he guards his man on Defense, which most nights is the best player of the opposing team, which on most nights is unstoppable anyway. It’s not his fault the Suns signed him to that ridiculous contract. We had wings, we didn’t even really need him.

Honestly, I never expected more than hitting 3s, playing D and putting in effort. He's doing none of those things.

Nope. I 100% prefer watching Bridges play the game. He's working on D and making things happen and shows some fire. Ariza is stealing hard cold cash right now.

Just trot out Warren and Bridges at the F spots and go from there. I'd rather not watch any of the other F's on this roster ever play.

[Drewsprocket]

No riskit no biscuit. I think offering up picks to nab a star point -not John Wall please- is what the Suns need. They don’t need another lottery pick. They need a vet. Kemba or Rozier.

Also, Bridges, Ariza, and Warren need to start as long as Booker is out.

[AmareIsGod]

And yet last season, which I thought was historically bad, we only had a margin of 9.37 which was the 33rd worst all time.

Yeah, but what were we after 7 games last year? Probably pretty similar.

Through 7 games last season, this is the best I can find:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/a ... 2017-10-31

-14.7

Holy crap. We are .01 worse than last season after 7 games. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. What are the odds. -14.71 vs. -14.70

[INFORMER]

I'm with Gambo, except I put top 4 protection on the '19 pick and try to go get Kemba or Rozier.

Desperation makes even smart people do stupid things.

[Superbone]

And yet last season, which I thought was historically bad, we only had a margin of 9.37 which was the 33rd worst all time.

Yeah, but what were we after 7 games last year? Probably pretty similar.

Through 7 games last season, this is the best I can find:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/a ... 2017-10-31

-14.7

Holy crap. We are .01 worse than last season after 7 games. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. What are the odds. -14.71 vs. -14.70

Especially with the record breaking blowout starts a year ago.

[Cap]

And yet last season, which I thought was historically bad, we only had a margin of 9.37 which was the 33rd worst all time.

Yeah, but what were we after 7 games last year? Probably pretty similar.

Through 7 games last season, this is the best I can find:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/a ... 2017-10-31

-14.7

Holy crap. We are .01 worse than last season after 7 games. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. What are the odds. -14.71 vs. -14.70

Especially with the record breaking blowout starts a year ago.

And this year we started with a 21-point win. In six games since, we have been out scored by more than 20 points on average (121.2-100.5).

We’ve surrendered 117+ in six straight games. The last team to do that was the Washington Bullets. Half our current roster hadn’t been born. http://bkref.com/tiny/E4QsD

[UglyTruth]

I'm with Gambo, except I put top 4 protection on the '19 pick and try to go get Kemba or Rozier.

Desperation makes even smart people do stupid things.

The Suns are gonna draft another BUST if they keep the pick. I wouldn't trade it for Rozier but I would trade it for Kemba with top 5 protection on it.

The next year's draft is projected to be WEAKER than the 2016 and 2013 drafts.

[UglyTruth]

Earl Watson must be wondering WHY THE **** he got fired for getting blown out at the beginning of the season with a worse roster than Kokoskov is when he's doing the same thing now!

[UglyTruth]

And no Watson deserved to be fired anyway but still.