He's the one constant in all of this mess.iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:17 pmYep. Until Sarver sells this team is going to suck, period. No matter who we bring in or draft, this team will be horrible. History speaks for itself.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:21 amI'm not a proponent of doing favors for the Lakers, but Chandler had to go -- the sooner, the better.
Jones hasn't done much of anything else, so I'm inclined to wait and see what sorts of steps or missteps he makes.
The real problem remains Sarver.
Unless he sells, or willingly gives control with a long leash to a savvy basketball person, the Suns are screwed.
Suns News: Week 4 11/5-11/11
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Yes he is. Different GMs, different coaches, different players, same result. I'd like to see what our win/loss total is the past 8 years but I'm too lazy to look it up. This went from being a classy organization to absolute trash. This organization is an embarrassment to the league.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:37 pmHe's the one constant in all of this mess.iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:17 pmYep. Until Sarver sells this team is going to suck, period. No matter who we bring in or draft, this team will be horrible. History speaks for itself.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:21 amI'm not a proponent of doing favors for the Lakers, but Chandler had to go -- the sooner, the better.
Jones hasn't done much of anything else, so I'm inclined to wait and see what sorts of steps or missteps he makes.
The real problem remains Sarver.
Unless he sells, or willingly gives control with a long leash to a savvy basketball person, the Suns are screwed.
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Their record since last making the playoffs in 2010 is 255-397 (.391) which would be 32-50 over a full season.iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:40 pmYes he is. Different GMs, different coaches, different players, same result. I'd like to see what our win/loss total is the past 8 years but I'm too lazy to look it up. This went from being a classy organization to absolute trash. This organization is an embarrassment to the league.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:37 pmHe's the one constant in all of this mess.iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:17 pmYep. Until Sarver sells this team is going to suck, period. No matter who we bring in or draft, this team will be horrible. History speaks for itself.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:21 amI'm not a proponent of doing favors for the Lakers, but Chandler had to go -- the sooner, the better.
Jones hasn't done much of anything else, so I'm inclined to wait and see what sorts of steps or missteps he makes.
The real problem remains Sarver.
Unless he sells, or willingly gives control with a long leash to a savvy basketball person, the Suns are screwed.
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Every one of the Suns losses this year have been by 7 or more points.
Six of the ten losses are by 20 or more points.
They are one 2-point victory away from a 10-game losing streak.
Opening night was *probably* an aberration.
Six of the ten losses are by 20 or more points.
They are one 2-point victory away from a 10-game losing streak.
Opening night was *probably* an aberration.
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Truthfully that winning percentage seems higher than I thoughtThe Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:48 pmTheir record since last making the playoffs in 2010 is 255-397 (.391) which would be 32-50 over a full season.iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:40 pmYes he is. Different GMs, different coaches, different players, same result. I'd like to see what our win/loss total is the past 8 years but I'm too lazy to look it up. This went from being a classy organization to absolute trash. This organization is an embarrassment to the league.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:37 pmHe's the one constant in all of this mess.iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:17 pmYep. Until Sarver sells this team is going to suck, period. No matter who we bring in or draft, this team will be horrible. History speaks for itself.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:21 amI'm not a proponent of doing favors for the Lakers, but Chandler had to go -- the sooner, the better.
Jones hasn't done much of anything else, so I'm inclined to wait and see what sorts of steps or missteps he makes.
The real problem remains Sarver.
Unless he sells, or willingly gives control with a long leash to a savvy basketball person, the Suns are screwed.
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since 2015 they're 70-188 (.271), which would be 22-60.
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That's more like it. When people say it can't get any worse, it always can.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:05 pmsince 2015 they're 70-188 (.271), which would be 22-60.
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Excluding opening night:The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:55 pmEvery one of the Suns losses this year have been by 7 or more points.
Six of the ten losses are by 20 or more points.
They are one 2-point victory away from a 10-game losing streak.
Opening night was *probably* an aberration.
Booker is shooting 42% overall and .29% from 3 with an even 5 TO each game, and a -8 in the box score. Link
Ariza: .344, .310, 1.8TO, -14.5 Link
Jackson: .378, .182, .538 FT%, 2.1 rb, 1.5assits, 3TO, -9.6 Link
Anderson: .333, .241, 3.2 rb, -7.4 Link
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We need someone who can actually pass the ball playing point. Not too many of those running around that might be available.
With Trae Young playing so well we should try to get Atlanta to trade us Jeremy Lin.
With Trae Young playing so well we should try to get Atlanta to trade us Jeremy Lin.
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Ayton saying this is......
Interesting !!
https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin/status/1061772211168653323
Interesting !!
https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin/status/1061772211168653323
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How many losses by 20-something does it take to receive that wake-up call?
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Ayton is just going with the flow til his wake up call comes to his area. No big deal.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:38 pmHow many losses by 20-something does it take to receive that wake-up call?
He's played well offensively, but he's got such a long way top go overall.
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I share some concerns regarding Kokoskov critizing the players. But what worries me more is that we get news/rumors like this every year no matter who the coach is. Offense needs to be dumbed down because players don't understand it, they don't follow the coach's instructions, low effort, etc.
Now this cool comment from Ayton... It's good to hear they realize there's a problem, I just don't understand what they have to feel cool about. Maybe not being the Cavs.
Now this cool comment from Ayton... It's good to hear they realize there's a problem, I just don't understand what they have to feel cool about. Maybe not being the Cavs.
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the blowout losses are terrible and we really running away with this statFlagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:38 pmHow many losses by 20-something does it take to receive that wake-up call?

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Cavs are getting outscored by an average of 9.9 ppg, which is second worst in the league. We’re at 13.2.
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Not cool.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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I've long felt like this. Our defense is so bad it doesn't matter who is at PG for us right now. We could trade for Walker & it we would still not be winning games.
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We have many problems that need corrected before we start winning games. Not having a competent PG is one of them.