Game Day: Suns (3-12) @ 76ers (11-7), Mon 11/19/18

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Re: Game Day: Suns (3-12) @ 76ers (11-7), Mon 11/19/18

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Indy wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:49 am
Worm, saying Frye was the 2nd best defensive player on our team that year is like saying the same thing this year. At best he was middle of the pack in the league (based on DWS and D-rating). Hard to call a guy a 3-D guy when he plays average D.

As far as TJ goes, again, saying we have no PF is disingenuous. You can not like him, or think he needs to pass more or play more defense. I agree. But he has still been a very effective PF for us. There are 78 guys in the league that play significant minutes at the 3/4 without playing any guard/center. TJ is 8th in PER at 19.2. This isn't like PG where we have a borderline NBA player starting for us. We have a legit starting PF.

On you 3rd point about who is playing a lot and how much they suck, you pointed out Anderson and Ariza haven't been playing of late... that was my point. It only leaves Jackson with significant minutes, and I have a hard time saying JJ alone is "too many awful" players.

I share your outlook on the game, just not for the hyperbolic reasoning.
Say it with me: Warren is not a PF. He is playing there because the two we have were so bad that we're playing Warren out of position. Warren's +/- has never been good, even on terrible Suns teams because he doesn't distribute, and is a huge negative on D.

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You need 5 players on the floor for 48 minutes per game. Our team is so bad, at so many positions manned entirely by really bad players (PF, PG), you're going to be putting terrible players on the court no matter what for considerable lengths of time. It doesn't help that the SF on the team making the most money and getting the most total minutes has been really awful, and so has his back up. Replacing one or two awful players with another couple of awful players is still a **** sandwich, regardless of what variety of **** gets put between the slices. We have one serviceable SG, two decent SFs, a C, and a decent back up C. Unless you plan on playing all of them 48 minutes per game, that a lot of court time for bad players, regardless of which one you choose.

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Ariza is getting the start tonight, per Gambo. Hopefully Mikal’s recent performance motivates Ariza to perform.

Booker-Bridges-Ariza-Warren-Ayton should be our 5 to end the game.

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An word on the backup point guard? I assume it's Melton until we hear otherwise.
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Cap wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:38 am
Just because he’s back doesn’t mean K has to start him.

Come on, Coach. Give us fans what we want. Start Bridges and Warren.
Yeah, knew he was back. Just hoping coach rewards Bridges for his good play. Otherwise, we might have Bridges over troubled waters on the (H)Ariza(n).
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Xylus wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:45 pm
Ariza is getting the start tonight, per Gambo. Hopefully Mikal’s recent performance motivates Ariza to perform.

Booker-Bridges-Ariza-Warren-Ayton should be our 5 to end the game.
Or his $15M salary.
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https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin/status/1064649169850286080
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bajanguy008 wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:42 pm
https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin/status/1064649169850286080
I'm not really surprised. I mean, what would Canaan provide against the Sixers?
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That's what I'm talking about! Everybody's happy. (Except Canaan.)
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In2ition wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:50 pm
bajanguy008 wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:42 pm
https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin/status/1064649169850286080
I'm not really surprised. I mean, what would Canaan provide against the Sixers?
Fodder? Can we still do that joke now that he fixed the pronunciation of his name?
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bajanguy008 wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:42 pm
https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin/status/1064649169850286080
Not exactly what I meant when I said “start Bridges and Warren,” but I’ll take it. It’s not like Canaan contributes very much.
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Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

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LOVE the energy to begin the game. We may have stumbled onto something with this starting group.

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I thought Embiid claims he plays defense? Lol.
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Ayton playing wellish, but how about Bridges! That kid is the heart of this team already.

And I love that Ariza's first touch came after 5 minutes of play. He doesn't need the ball.
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Why take Ayton out after less than 4 minutes?
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Who are these guys! Might be our best quarter of basketball this season. 12 FGM spread out between 6 shooters. 10 assists, 2 turnovers.

It looks like the guys have figured out the offense, and Igor figured out the lineups.
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Bridges and Jackson came out with the same mentality they had on defense against the OKC. Now Ariza is starting to play some defense, too. Imagine how good we can be if the defenders on this team defend.
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We are really picking on Fultz and Shamet right now.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (3-12) @ 76ers (11-7), Mon 11/19/18

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Booker with 6 assists in the first quarter! On pace to double that career high now lol.
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