Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
If they draft Morant, the Suns would be wise to keep Crawford on the roster as a mentor.
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
First player to score 50+ for 4 different teams.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
19-63, 3 more wins than the expansion year.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Couldn't even get to 20 wins. I sure hope this is the low point.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Infuriating game to start then fun...then depressing.
No energy or effort or pride the first half. Just getting dicked down by the shitty Mavs...then Jamal Crawford happened. Holy shit.
When Crawford hit 30 the rest of the team was like oh shit, we better start playing. Pathetic effort by each player up until that point.
Amazing performance by Crawford. More impressive than Bookers 59 IMO because of the age factor.
I hope Crawford can transition to a coaching role next year but hel probably still want to play.
The rest of tonight’s team... I hope only Bridges is back from that group. I’ve seen enough of the loser play and attitude from the rest.
Bender got absolutely rolled by Dirk and anyone else and refused to attack him on offense. Not what I need to see from a guy fighting for his NBA career.
Josh and his 17 technicals can go fuck off somewhere else next season. He’s not good enough to warrant that many. He’s shown he’s not a winner.
The others just have accepted losing without putting up much of a fight so they are all replaceable and I hope they are.
Another gloomy season in the books. That should tide me over until October and if they fuck up the off-season then probably longer
No energy or effort or pride the first half. Just getting dicked down by the shitty Mavs...then Jamal Crawford happened. Holy shit.
When Crawford hit 30 the rest of the team was like oh shit, we better start playing. Pathetic effort by each player up until that point.
Amazing performance by Crawford. More impressive than Bookers 59 IMO because of the age factor.
I hope Crawford can transition to a coaching role next year but hel probably still want to play.
The rest of tonight’s team... I hope only Bridges is back from that group. I’ve seen enough of the loser play and attitude from the rest.
Bender got absolutely rolled by Dirk and anyone else and refused to attack him on offense. Not what I need to see from a guy fighting for his NBA career.
Josh and his 17 technicals can go fuck off somewhere else next season. He’s not good enough to warrant that many. He’s shown he’s not a winner.
The others just have accepted losing without putting up much of a fight so they are all replaceable and I hope they are.
Another gloomy season in the books. That should tide me over until October and if they fuck up the off-season then probably longer
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
I would agree with this postdjy2j wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:00 pmInfuriating game to start then fun...then depressing.
No energy or effort or pride the first half. Just getting dicked down by the s*** Mavs...then Jamal Crawford happened. Holy s***.
When Crawford hit 30 the rest of the team was like oh s***, we better start playing. Pathetic effort by each player up until that point.
Amazing performance by Crawford. More impressive than Bookers 59 IMO because of the age factor.
I hope Crawford can transition to a coaching role next year but hel probably still want to play.
The rest of tonight’s team... I hope only Bridges is back from that group. I’ve seen enough of the loser play and attitude from the rest.
Bender got absolutely rolled by Dirk and anyone else and refused to attack him on offense. Not what I need to see from a guy fighting for his NBA career.
Josh and his 17 technicals can go f*** off somewhere else next season. He’s not good enough to warrant that many. He’s shown he’s not a winner.
The others just have accepted losing without putting up much of a fight so they are all replaceable and I hope they are.
Another gloomy season in the books. That should tide me over until October and if they f*** up the off-season then probably longer
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Amazing effort by Crawford, well done to him.
Also a 39yo being the lone bright spot to finish the season seems somehow appropriate
Also a 39yo being the lone bright spot to finish the season seems somehow appropriate
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Good season, fellas. Remember how it started with that first game against Dallas and we were all so hopeful? And then like 3 games later we all knew we were in for another turd of a year?
Props to all of us that toughed it out.
Props to all of us that toughed it out.
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Jamal came out and hit and I was like, cool. Then he went cold and I started cursing the Jamal show. Then he lit it up and I started cheering the Jamal show. Fans are so fickle. At least he made an otherwise depressing game interesting.
Another year ends without being in the playoffs. I dare not guess what happens in the offseason. We know what they need. They know what they need. Ayton and Booker and future All Stars if they ever make the playoffs. We have some really good pieces already. I might think about being part of that if I am a free agent PG or PF looking for a good home. We have some chips and a good draft pick coming. Git’er done.
I predict a 40 win season next year and squeak into the playoffs the year after that.
Another year ends without being in the playoffs. I dare not guess what happens in the offseason. We know what they need. They know what they need. Ayton and Booker and future All Stars if they ever make the playoffs. We have some really good pieces already. I might think about being part of that if I am a free agent PG or PF looking for a good home. We have some chips and a good draft pick coming. Git’er done.
I predict a 40 win season next year and squeak into the playoffs the year after that.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Jamal Crawford’s 51-point game last night marked only the eighth time in NBA history that teammates scored 50 or more points in the same season. Of note: the 61-62 Lakers had three players score 50 that season … Elgin Baylor, Rudy LaRusso and Jerry West.
Crawford is the oldest player to score 50 or more points. He is one of only 29 players in NBA history to score 50 or more at least four times. (Booker is one of 37 to do so three times.) And, as mentioned elsewhere, Crawford is the only player to do it for four different teams.
Tom Chambers scored 50 twice for the Suns. Other Suns with 50-point games: Tony Delk, Cliff Robinson, Amare’ Stoudemire and Charles Barkley (playoffs).
Devin Booker (twice) and Crawford scored 50 points this season for the Suns. Of note: the 88-89 Suns had four players score 40 or more points … Tom Chambers, Armen Gilliam, Eddie Johnson and Kevin Johnson.
Crawford is the oldest player to score 50 or more points. He is one of only 29 players in NBA history to score 50 or more at least four times. (Booker is one of 37 to do so three times.) And, as mentioned elsewhere, Crawford is the only player to do it for four different teams.
Tom Chambers scored 50 twice for the Suns. Other Suns with 50-point games: Tony Delk, Cliff Robinson, Amare’ Stoudemire and Charles Barkley (playoffs).
Devin Booker (twice) and Crawford scored 50 points this season for the Suns. Of note: the 88-89 Suns had four players score 40 or more points … Tom Chambers, Armen Gilliam, Eddie Johnson and Kevin Johnson.
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
The most amazing stat to me in all of that was that Armen scored 40. 1988 was the first year I really started to follow the team more than casually, and I just don't remember him being such a scoring threat.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:08 amJamal Crawford’s 51-point game last night marked only the eighth time in NBA history that teammates scored 50 or more points in the same season. Of note: the 61-62 Lakers had three players score 50 that season … Elgin Baylor, Rudy LaRusso and Jerry West.
Crawford is the oldest player to score 50 or more points. He is one of only 29 players in NBA history to score 50 or more at least four times. (Booker is one of 37 to do so three times.) And, as mentioned elsewhere, Crawford is the only player to do it for four different teams.
Tom Chambers scored 50 twice for the Suns. Other Suns with 50-point games: Tony Delk, Cliff Robinson, Amare’ Stoudemire and Charles Barkley (playoffs).
Devin Booker (twice) and Crawford scored 50 points this season for the Suns. Of note: the 88-89 Suns had four players score 40 or more points … Tom Chambers, Armen Gilliam, Eddie Johnson and Kevin Johnson.
So I had to look it up.
He scored more than 30 points a total of 9 times in his 13 year career.
About the game he scored 41:
Box score is here: https://www.basketball-reference.com/bo ... 60PHO.html
* Suns beat the Blazers by 7, 132 to 125
* Armen scored 41 on 26 shots.
* The Suns only played 8 guys
* We took 1 three all game (Majerle made it)
* Our backcourt (KJ, Horny, Majerle) combined for 28 assists.
* Jeff went 3-10 in the game. (I now need to look up how many games that guy took 10 shots with zero 3PA and didn't make at least 4.)
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
So to answer that last question on Jeff, out of his 1077 games played, he did that (appropriately) 14 times.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Gilliam was a solid half-court player, but Cotton's up-tempo style was not conducive to Armon/Armen's success.
Plus he and Chambers did not play well together.
They tried to use Gilliam as a center, but he was MIA on defense.
So he was traded to Charlotte for Kurt Rambis, a prototypical dirt worker who didn't need the ball (welcome on a team loaded with scorers).
Plus he and Chambers did not play well together.
They tried to use Gilliam as a center, but he was MIA on defense.
So he was traded to Charlotte for Kurt Rambis, a prototypical dirt worker who didn't need the ball (welcome on a team loaded with scorers).
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
I just want to note what a positive step this is from last season, where you would have been Kinison yelling "SHOOT the damn ball!!!" His aggressiveness on offense took a big leap forward this year. It's a real shame his shot abandoned him.
Did you know he led the team in FG% at the rim? 74.7%! Last season he was 20% worse.
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Yeah, that is sad.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Good riddance to this garbage season.
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Even EJ commented on it during the telecast.
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Seriously, all of them seemed ok when they walked up in their Exit meetings and Booker made the trip to Miami to see Wade's last game and party with him afterwards, but none of them were good enough to go to Dallas to cheer on the guys that actually pushed to play? This seems odd to me.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
Exactly. It was a shitty move by them. Took a bit of a vacation instead of supporting their team.In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:17 pmSeriously, all of them seemed ok when they walked up in their Exit meetings and Booker made the trip to Miami to see Wade's last game and party with him afterwards, but none of them were good enough to go to Dallas to cheer on the guys that actually pushed to play? This seems odd to me.
Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19
They didn’t go to Houston either...I think stayed back for treatment of injuries