Totally agree, if they can't work something out and they really want Clarke, take Clarke. In general, I'm not in love with the guards in this draft (outside of Morant). I like Hunter, Clarke, and Washington, though I go back and forth over who I like better between Hunter and Clarke.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:05 pmbut let's say there aren't any takers, or at least takers in the range where we know he will still be available. I want the suns to walk away from the draft with the player they want most that is still on the board when they pick. I don't care if we think we can trade 6 for 11 and come away with Clarke and something else. If they love clarke more than the other folks on the board when they pick, take him.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:00 pmIt just feels like we would have to be able to trade back to 8 or 9 and pick Clarke there while getting some kind of asset, right? A future first? A second-rounder? Something? C'mon, guys. Get on the phone.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:53 pmI really like Clarke; if we were to "reach" for him at 6, I wouldn't be really upset about it. I would be annoyed because I think the general media consensus is that he could be had later, and if we had to resort to picking him at 6 it might indicate that we weren't aggressive enough in trading down. But I think Clarke is being undervalued in general.
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Here's a list of the all-time 6th picks in the NBA draft. Who are the best ones? At a glance, I'd say: Larry Bird, Damian Lillard, Brandon Roy, Antoine Walker, Lenny Wilkins, Kenny Smith, Shane Battier, Googs.
2018 Mo Bamba, UT Austin – Orlando Magic
2017 Jonathan Isaac, Florida State – Orlando Magic
2016 Buddy Hield, Oklahoma – New Orleans Pelicans
2015 Willie Cauley-Stein, Kentucky – Sacramento Kings
2014 Marcus Smart, Oklahoma St. – Boston Celtics
2013 Nerlens Noel, Kentucky – New Orleans Pelicans
2012 Damian Lillard, Weber State – Portland Trail Blazers
2011 Jan Vesely, Czech Republic – Washington Wizards
2010 Ekpe Udoh, Baylor – Golden State Warriors
2009 Johnny Flynn, Syracuse – Minnesota Timberwolves
2008 Danilo Gallinari, Italy – New York Knicks
2007 Yi Jianlian, China – Milwaukee Bucks
2006 Brandon Roy, Washington – Minnesota Timberwolves
2005 Martell Webster, Seattle Prep HS – Portland Trail Blazers
2004 Josh Childress, Stanford – Atlanta Hawks
2003 Chris Kaman, Central Michigan – L.A. Clippers
2002 Dajuan Wagner, Memphis – Cleveland Cavaliers
2001 Shane Battier, Duke – Memphis Grizzlies
2000 DerMarr Johnson, Cincinnati – Atlanta Hawks
1999 Wally Szczerbiak, Miami (Ohio) – Minnesota Timberwolves
1998 Robert Traylor, Michigan – Dallas Mavericks
1997 Ron Mercer, Kentucky – Boston Celtics
1996 Antoine Walker, Kentucky – Boston Celtics
1995 Bryant Reeves, Oklahoma State – Vancouver Grizzlies
1994 Sharone Wright, Clemson – Philadelphia 76ers
1993 Calbert Cheaney, Indiana – Washington Wizards
1992 Tom Gugliotta, North Carolina State – Washington Bullets
1991 Doug Smith, Missouri – Dallas Mavericks
1990 Felton Spencer, Louisville – Minnesota Timberwolves
1989 Stacey King, Oklahoma – Chicago Bulls
1988 Hersey Hawkins, Bradley – L.A. Clippers
1987 Kenny Smith, North Carolina – Sacramento Kings
1986 William Bedford, Memphis State – Phoenix Suns
1985 Joe Kleine, Arkansas – Sacramento Kings
1984 Mel Turpin, Kentucky – Washington Bullets
1983 Russell Cross, Purdue – Golden State Warriors
1982 Trent Tucker, Minnesota – New York Knicks
1981 Orlando Woolridge, Notre Dame – Chicago Bulls
1980 Mike O’Koren, North Carolina – New Jersey Nets
1979 James Bailey, Rutgers – Seattle Supersonics
1978 Larry Bird, Indiana State – Boston Celtics
1977 Kenny Carr, North Carolina State – L.A. Lakers
1976 Adrian Dantley, Notre Dame – Buffalo Braves
1975 Lionel Hollins, Arizona State – Portland Trail Blazers
1974 Scott Wedman, Colorado – Kansas City-Omaha Kings
1973 Ed Ratleff, Long Beach State – Houston Rockets
1972 Russell Lee, Marshall – Milwaukee Bucks
1971 Fred Brown, Iowa – Seattle Supersonics
1970 Jim Ard, Cincinnati – Seattle Supersonics
1969 Bobby Smith, Tulsa – San Diego Rockets
1968 Otto Moore, Pan American – Detroit Pistons
1967 Al Tucker, Oklahoma Baptist – Seattle Supersonics
1966 Walt Wesley, Kansas – Cincinnati Royals
1965 Jim Washington, Villanova – St. Louis Hawks
1964 Barry Kramer, New York University – San Francisco Warriors
1963 Tom Hoover, Villanova – Syracuse Nationals
1962 Leroy Ellis, St. John’s – L.A. Lakers
1961 Ben Warley, Tennessee State – Syracuse Nationals
1960 Lenny Wilkens, Providence – St. Louis Hawks
1959 John Richter, North Carolina State – Boston Celtics
1958 Connie Dierking, Cincinnati – Syracuse Nationals
1957 Len Rosenbluth, North Carolina – Philadelphia Warriors
1956 Ron Sobie, DePaul University – Fort Wayne Pistons
1955 Johnny Horan, University of Dayton – Fort Wayne Pistons
1954 Red Kerr, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign – Syracuse Nationals
1953 Jim Neal, Wofford College – Syracuse Nationals
1952 Bob Stauffer, University of Missouri – Boston Celtics
1951 Ed Smith, Harvard University – New York Knicks
1950 Irwin Dambrot, City College of New York – New York Knicks
2018 Mo Bamba, UT Austin – Orlando Magic
2017 Jonathan Isaac, Florida State – Orlando Magic
2016 Buddy Hield, Oklahoma – New Orleans Pelicans
2015 Willie Cauley-Stein, Kentucky – Sacramento Kings
2014 Marcus Smart, Oklahoma St. – Boston Celtics
2013 Nerlens Noel, Kentucky – New Orleans Pelicans
2012 Damian Lillard, Weber State – Portland Trail Blazers
2011 Jan Vesely, Czech Republic – Washington Wizards
2010 Ekpe Udoh, Baylor – Golden State Warriors
2009 Johnny Flynn, Syracuse – Minnesota Timberwolves
2008 Danilo Gallinari, Italy – New York Knicks
2007 Yi Jianlian, China – Milwaukee Bucks
2006 Brandon Roy, Washington – Minnesota Timberwolves
2005 Martell Webster, Seattle Prep HS – Portland Trail Blazers
2004 Josh Childress, Stanford – Atlanta Hawks
2003 Chris Kaman, Central Michigan – L.A. Clippers
2002 Dajuan Wagner, Memphis – Cleveland Cavaliers
2001 Shane Battier, Duke – Memphis Grizzlies
2000 DerMarr Johnson, Cincinnati – Atlanta Hawks
1999 Wally Szczerbiak, Miami (Ohio) – Minnesota Timberwolves
1998 Robert Traylor, Michigan – Dallas Mavericks
1997 Ron Mercer, Kentucky – Boston Celtics
1996 Antoine Walker, Kentucky – Boston Celtics
1995 Bryant Reeves, Oklahoma State – Vancouver Grizzlies
1994 Sharone Wright, Clemson – Philadelphia 76ers
1993 Calbert Cheaney, Indiana – Washington Wizards
1992 Tom Gugliotta, North Carolina State – Washington Bullets
1991 Doug Smith, Missouri – Dallas Mavericks
1990 Felton Spencer, Louisville – Minnesota Timberwolves
1989 Stacey King, Oklahoma – Chicago Bulls
1988 Hersey Hawkins, Bradley – L.A. Clippers
1987 Kenny Smith, North Carolina – Sacramento Kings
1986 William Bedford, Memphis State – Phoenix Suns
1985 Joe Kleine, Arkansas – Sacramento Kings
1984 Mel Turpin, Kentucky – Washington Bullets
1983 Russell Cross, Purdue – Golden State Warriors
1982 Trent Tucker, Minnesota – New York Knicks
1981 Orlando Woolridge, Notre Dame – Chicago Bulls
1980 Mike O’Koren, North Carolina – New Jersey Nets
1979 James Bailey, Rutgers – Seattle Supersonics
1978 Larry Bird, Indiana State – Boston Celtics
1977 Kenny Carr, North Carolina State – L.A. Lakers
1976 Adrian Dantley, Notre Dame – Buffalo Braves
1975 Lionel Hollins, Arizona State – Portland Trail Blazers
1974 Scott Wedman, Colorado – Kansas City-Omaha Kings
1973 Ed Ratleff, Long Beach State – Houston Rockets
1972 Russell Lee, Marshall – Milwaukee Bucks
1971 Fred Brown, Iowa – Seattle Supersonics
1970 Jim Ard, Cincinnati – Seattle Supersonics
1969 Bobby Smith, Tulsa – San Diego Rockets
1968 Otto Moore, Pan American – Detroit Pistons
1967 Al Tucker, Oklahoma Baptist – Seattle Supersonics
1966 Walt Wesley, Kansas – Cincinnati Royals
1965 Jim Washington, Villanova – St. Louis Hawks
1964 Barry Kramer, New York University – San Francisco Warriors
1963 Tom Hoover, Villanova – Syracuse Nationals
1962 Leroy Ellis, St. John’s – L.A. Lakers
1961 Ben Warley, Tennessee State – Syracuse Nationals
1960 Lenny Wilkens, Providence – St. Louis Hawks
1959 John Richter, North Carolina State – Boston Celtics
1958 Connie Dierking, Cincinnati – Syracuse Nationals
1957 Len Rosenbluth, North Carolina – Philadelphia Warriors
1956 Ron Sobie, DePaul University – Fort Wayne Pistons
1955 Johnny Horan, University of Dayton – Fort Wayne Pistons
1954 Red Kerr, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign – Syracuse Nationals
1953 Jim Neal, Wofford College – Syracuse Nationals
1952 Bob Stauffer, University of Missouri – Boston Celtics
1951 Ed Smith, Harvard University – New York Knicks
1950 Irwin Dambrot, City College of New York – New York Knicks
Re: Who to pick at 6
This is lining up perfectly for us to draft Coby White over either Garland or Culver. Obviously, none of us know anything, but lots of people whose opinions I respect view that as a really dumb move.
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Also, we just cleared up some of our wing logjam, so Culver has a path to more PT.
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We may blow this pick, but at least today will be interesting
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Who(m) to pick at #6. Answer: nobody. At least, not by us.
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Haha, those who picked trade it win!Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:25 pmWho(m) to pick at #6. Answer: nobody. At least, not by us.
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New thread: Whom to pick at #11?
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Apparently, James Jones read both of your posts and took them to heart... except it was reaching for Cam what tortured his soul.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:15 pmTotally agree, if they can't work something out and they really want Clarke, take Clarke. In general, I'm not in love with the guards in this draft (outside of Morant). I like Hunter, Clarke, and Washington, though I go back and forth over who I like better between Hunter and Clarke.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:05 pmbut let's say there aren't any takers, or at least takers in the range where we know he will still be available. I want the suns to walk away from the draft with the player they want most that is still on the board when they pick. I don't care if we think we can trade 6 for 11 and come away with Clarke and something else. If they love clarke more than the other folks on the board when they pick, take him.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:00 pmIt just feels like we would have to be able to trade back to 8 or 9 and pick Clarke there while getting some kind of asset, right? A future first? A second-rounder? Something? C'mon, guys. Get on the phone.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:53 pmI really like Clarke; if we were to "reach" for him at 6, I wouldn't be really upset about it. I would be annoyed because I think the general media consensus is that he could be had later, and if we had to resort to picking him at 6 it might indicate that we weren't aggressive enough in trading down. But I think Clarke is being undervalued in general.
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I gotta say, in all the draft coverage I grew more fond of Coby White. I just really liked his attitude. He gave great interviews and seemed to be a thoughtful and emotional young man. I also liked his floor leadership. I have a feeling guys will like playing with him.
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You listen to that Cam Johnson interview?Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:03 amI gotta say, in all the draft coverage I grew more fond of Coby White. I just really liked his attitude. He gave great interviews and seemed to be a thoughtful and emotional young man. I also liked his floor leadership. I have a feeling guys will like playing with him.
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Split, something is wrong with this poll. I'm not seeing the Cam Johnson choice. Please advise.
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DeMar Derozan for the minimum!
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DeMar Derozan for the minimum!
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C: Mo Bamba, Andre Drummond, James Wiseman, Goga Bitadze, Jay Huff
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Ah, right. My bad.
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