Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
Re: Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
I am glad that the recent changes to the lottery are reducing the incentives and benefit of tanking. Teams that threw games last year generally were not rewarded for it. Over time this will change the mindset.
Re: Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
Philly disagrees.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:09 pmIf you are tanking as a one-off, it could work (especially with the old lotto rules). But teaching your players it is ok to lose is just stupid as a year over year over year strategy. Ugh.In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:56 pmIn hindsight, organizationally tanking games was the dumbest thing you could possibly do, imo. It just created a terrible culture and they dropped the ball on developing those young draft picks, which was reprehensible.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:50 pmYEah, let's hope we didn't f*** up anyone else on the roster by not trying hard. Teaching competitors it is ok (and even encouraged) to lose can really screw you up.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:48 pmI don't agree with this. But we certainly would have been better. It's hard to know how good we "should" have been because we clearly sat marginally injured players and didn't try our hardest to win at the end of the season. Sometimes you win more games simply because you start trying your hardest as an organization and stop "soft tanking" by resting guys who could play.
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Re: Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
We would too if we were better at drafting.Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:00 pmPhilly disagrees.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:09 pmIf you are tanking as a one-off, it could work (especially with the old lotto rules). But teaching your players it is ok to lose is just stupid as a year over year over year strategy. Ugh.In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:56 pmIn hindsight, organizationally tanking games was the dumbest thing you could possibly do, imo. It just created a terrible culture and they dropped the ball on developing those young draft picks, which was reprehensible.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:50 pmYEah, let's hope we didn't f*** up anyone else on the roster by not trying hard. Teaching competitors it is ok (and even encouraged) to lose can really screw you up.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:48 pm
I don't agree with this. But we certainly would have been better. It's hard to know how good we "should" have been because we clearly sat marginally injured players and didn't try our hardest to win at the end of the season. Sometimes you win more games simply because you start trying your hardest as an organization and stop "soft tanking" by resting guys who could play.
Re: Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
Good thing we turned over nearly our entire roster, huh?Indy wrote:YEah, let's hope we didn't fuck up anyone else on the roster by not trying hard. Teaching competitors it is ok (and even encouraged) to lose can really screw you up.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:48 pmI don't agree with this. But we certainly would have been better. It's hard to know how good we "should" have been because we clearly sat marginally injured players and didn't try our hardest to win at the end of the season. Sometimes you win more games simply because you start trying your hardest as an organization and stop "soft tanking" by resting guys who could play.
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Re: Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
Yescarey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:51 pmGood thing we turned over nearly our entire roster, huh?Indy wrote:YEah, let's hope we didn't fuck up anyone else on the roster by not trying hard. Teaching competitors it is ok (and even encouraged) to lose can really screw you up.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:48 pmI don't agree with this. But we certainly would have been better. It's hard to know how good we "should" have been because we clearly sat marginally injured players and didn't try our hardest to win at the end of the season. Sometimes you win more games simply because you start trying your hardest as an organization and stop "soft tanking" by resting guys who could play.
Re: Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
Probably just as important as how bad we have been at developingShabazz wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:04 pmWe would too if we were better at drafting.Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:00 pmPhilly disagrees.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:09 pmIf you are tanking as a one-off, it could work (especially with the old lotto rules). But teaching your players it is ok to lose is just stupid as a year over year over year strategy. Ugh.
Re: Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
I think several of our younglings, such as Bender, would have made it in the league if they had been drafted and developed by, say, San Antonio. We should strive to do better by our rookies.
Re: Suns trading Melton and Jackson to Grizz for Korver and Javon Carter
Heard Cavs are looking at Bender