Art: "I mean, he shoots Theo Tonin, fakes his own death in a spectacular fashion, pushes a guy out of an airplane while he's flying it, parachutes into Harlan County with enough coke and cash to jump-start the economy of a small country, and then he has the balls to get a job in law enforcement, not once but two times! He spends a couple of days riding around with you [points at Raylan] while you're looking for him, and now he's run off with a hooker that's half his age. That's some bad-ass shit."
Raylan: "It's pretty bad-ass."
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Art: "I'm gonna give you ten seconds to leave, and then I'm gonna shoot you."
Wynn: "FYI, that's kind of a thing with these marshals."
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Needless to say, The Strain is not a particularly smart show. Nor is it, I must say, a consistent one. Sometimes The Strain suggests that Manhattan, in the span of a week, has transformed into a dystopic failed state of roaming monsters, petty crime, and random explosions. Other times, the easygoing traffic on the Manhattan Bridge resembles a summer Sunday morning. I’ve seen New Yorkers more upset when the F train isn’t running than they are in Day 5 of a supernatural slaughterfest. Worse, The Strain doesn’t even pass basic geography: Three weeks ago, Zach Goodweather was able to use an old, battery-drained laptop (OK) to track his mother’s iPhone (fine), despite the Internet being down (sure). The live map he shared with his father clearly showed the phone in Brooklyn Heights. “She’s in Astoria!,” Eph Goodweather declared before running off to find her. That wouldn’t be a big deal if the Toronto-filmed show didn’t lead off nearly every scene with a nonsensically specific bumper. (118th Street; Harlem; etc.). Don’t tell me where you are if you can’t even manage to get there!
Yes, the show is fantasy, but come on. There was gravity on Tatooine, you know? On The Strain, it often feels like the rules are being made up as they go along. To wit: There is an entire city feeling the effects of a monstrous plague and yet the only ones interested in putting a stop to it are a senior citizen, an exterminator, two doctors, and (ugh) a hacker? (Did it occur to no one to maybe knock on the door of a fire station or police station?) The white worms are predatory and infectious, but no one bothers to wear masks or gloves. Vampires die in the sun except when they don’t. Vasiliy Fet’s goatee appears to change color from week to week. If The Strain doesn’t care enough to follow its own internal logic, why should we bother to try?
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Honestly, a lot of the faults come from the transition from book to screen. There was a lot more detail in the novel that I don't know how you'd be able to portray on TV.
One of the big twists in the book, for example, is that the vampires cannot, indeed, cross running water. So Fet attempts to bomb the subway line because vampires are hitching rides on top of the trains to get around the limitation. Despite this, the whole post-apocalyptic atmosphere doesn't come into play until the end of the 2nd book, the problem the heroes are running into is that things are mostly normal, not going bat crap crazy like on the show.
the death of Nora's mom. In the books she doesn't die until, I believe, the beginning of the 3rd book. This sets up a lot of situations where Nora and her mom wait behind with Zach while the others fight. Which would make a heck of a lot more sense than giving a kid a sword and taking him on a raid. Yes, she's a pain in the ass character. But the heroes trying to keep her alive in the books is what shows that they are still human, even having to do horrible things to survive.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge defender, because the final two-thirds of the last book was probably one of the lamest and most disappointing conclusions I've ever read in a series. If they fix/change that they can only go up from there.
Dan H wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge defender, because the final two-thirds of the last book was probably one of the lamest and most disappointing conclusions I've ever read in a series. If they fix/change that they can only go up from there.
Hmmm. I only read the first two and have put off the last one because of fears they'd fuck the landing up. Sounds like they did.
If you like vampire stuff may I recommend Justin Cronin's The Passage series? The best way I can describe it is a literary vampire novel (as in not pulp like Strain or True Blood or Twilight), but it's similar as far as a "plague" of vampirism. I'm really looking forward to the 3rd installment, but they are epic beasts (800 pages or so) so they don't get pumped out to quickly.
Needless to say, The Strain is not a particularly smart show. Nor is it, I must say, a consistent one. Sometimes The Strain suggests that Manhattan, in the span of a week, has transformed into a dystopic failed state of roaming monsters, petty crime, and random explosions. Other times, the easygoing traffic on the Manhattan Bridge resembles a summer Sunday morning. I’ve seen New Yorkers more upset when the F train isn’t running than they are in Day 5 of a supernatural slaughterfest. Worse, The Strain doesn’t even pass basic geography: Three weeks ago, Zach Goodweather was able to use an old, battery-drained laptop (OK) to track his mother’s iPhone (fine), despite the Internet being down (sure). The live map he shared with his father clearly showed the phone in Brooklyn Heights. “She’s in Astoria!,” Eph Goodweather declared before running off to find her. That wouldn’t be a big deal if the Toronto-filmed show didn’t lead off nearly every scene with a nonsensically specific bumper. (118th Street; Harlem; etc.). Don’t tell me where you are if you can’t even manage to get there!
Yes, the show is fantasy, but come on. There was gravity on Tatooine, you know? On The Strain, it often feels like the rules are being made up as they go along. To wit: There is an entire city feeling the effects of a monstrous plague and yet the only ones interested in putting a stop to it are a senior citizen, an exterminator, two doctors, and (ugh) a hacker? (Did it occur to no one to maybe knock on the door of a fire station or police station?) The white worms are predatory and infectious, but no one bothers to wear masks or gloves. Vampires die in the sun except when they don’t. Vasiliy Fet’s goatee appears to change color from week to week. If The Strain doesn’t care enough to follow its own internal logic, why should we bother to try?
Dan H wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge defender, because the final two-thirds of the last book was probably one of the lamest and most disappointing conclusions I've ever read in a series. If they fix/change that they can only go up from there.
Hmmm. I only read the first two and have put off the last one because of fears they'd fuck the landing up. Sounds like they did.
If you like vampire stuff may I recommend Justin Cronin's The Passage series? The best way I can describe it is a literary vampire novel (as in not pulp like Strain or True Blood or Twilight), but it's similar as far as a "plague" of vampirism. I'm really looking forward to the 3rd installment, but they are epic beasts (800 pages or so) so they don't get pumped out to quickly.
I read the first one and couldn't get into the second one, don't know if it had been too long between books or what. I'm going to revisit it when the final one comes out. That's what I did with Game of Thrones and enjoyed it far more than having to wait.
Needless to say, The Strain is not a particularly smart show. Nor is it, I must say, a consistent one. Sometimes The Strain suggests that Manhattan, in the span of a week, has transformed into a dystopic failed state of roaming monsters, petty crime, and random explosions. Other times, the easygoing traffic on the Manhattan Bridge resembles a summer Sunday morning. I’ve seen New Yorkers more upset when the F train isn’t running than they are in Day 5 of a supernatural slaughterfest. Worse, The Strain doesn’t even pass basic geography: Three weeks ago, Zach Goodweather was able to use an old, battery-drained laptop (OK) to track his mother’s iPhone (fine), despite the Internet being down (sure). The live map he shared with his father clearly showed the phone in Brooklyn Heights. “She’s in Astoria!,” Eph Goodweather declared before running off to find her. That wouldn’t be a big deal if the Toronto-filmed show didn’t lead off nearly every scene with a nonsensically specific bumper. (118th Street; Harlem; etc.). Don’t tell me where you are if you can’t even manage to get there!
Yes, the show is fantasy, but come on. There was gravity on Tatooine, you know? On The Strain, it often feels like the rules are being made up as they go along. To wit: There is an entire city feeling the effects of a monstrous plague and yet the only ones interested in putting a stop to it are a senior citizen, an exterminator, two doctors, and (ugh) a hacker? (Did it occur to no one to maybe knock on the door of a fire station or police station?) The white worms are predatory and infectious, but no one bothers to wear masks or gloves. Vampires die in the sun except when they don’t. Vasiliy Fet’s goatee appears to change color from week to week. If The Strain doesn’t care enough to follow its own internal logic, why should we bother to try?
I usually agree with his criticisms of that show too. Namely, the main character Sucks.
But RE The Strain, you don't mind the stuff I put in the Spoiler Tag? It drove me nuts.
Precious Achiuwa, Dalano Banton, Batum, Chris Boucher, Amir Coffey, Tre Jones, Laravia, Mamukelashvili, Tre Mann, De'Anthony Melton, Minott, Nance, Chris Paul, GP2, T. Prince, Reed, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, Tate, Watford, Yabusele
SDC wrote:the girls who plays selina kyle in gotham looks like a young michelle pfieffer.
On the bright side, at least she doesnt give me the "quick, check IMDB before ogling!" feeling I get when watching "Jessie" on the Disney channel with my kids. :p
* Edit - because she's obviously 14. That came off creepier than I intended.
