2022 Trade Deadline Talk
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It's going to be an important week, maybe more important that ever before. Or maybe less important. Nonetheless, it's going to be important!
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I'm sure this is exactly how Bledsoe saw his career playing out. I dOnT wAnNa bE hErE


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Why would the Nets trade Harden for Ben Simmons? Harden isn't having his very best season, but Harden + Kyrie + KD is an almost unstoppable trio. Ben Simmons is a broken man and who knows what he has left in the tank? They'd be throwing their whole season into chaos. And I wonder whether KD or Kyrie would like them jettisoning their star buddy. I don't see why Nets would go in this direction.
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I had forgotten, Ben Simmons seems to be anti-vax, too? So he wouldn't be able to play home games for them just like Kyrie? Oof. I guess the Sixers would have to throw in other players and/or picks to make things work.
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Simmons and Irving in the same locker room? My eyes would roll out of my head if my job was to get quotes from Nets players.
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Yeah, many teams saying, "We don't want you here either!"
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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Flex reporting the Suns are kicking the tires on Domatas Sabonis. Others reporting GSW is too. All seem to agree the Pacers are shopping him.
I could see something like Justin Holiday & Sabonis for Ayton, Saric, and Smith.
Sabonis is locked in at #$18M per year for two seasons after this. I could actually see Sarver and Jones doing this as an alternative to having to go way over the LT to keep Ayton. A lot of people are scoffing at it, but I'm thinking it's way more plausible than people are giving it credit for.
I could see something like Justin Holiday & Sabonis for Ayton, Saric, and Smith.
Sabonis is locked in at #$18M per year for two seasons after this. I could actually see Sarver and Jones doing this as an alternative to having to go way over the LT to keep Ayton. A lot of people are scoffing at it, but I'm thinking it's way more plausible than people are giving it credit for.
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If we know we’re losing Ayton in the offseason, then maybe. But I’d still rather S&T Ayton in the offseason.
This works though:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8tn7dou
Paul/Payne
Booker/Lavert
Bridges/Johnson
Crowder/Johnson
McGee/Sabonis
I’d still give Sabonis 30 minutes, but I’d rather he anchor the 2nd unit. I’d mostly have him play all the minutes Paul is on the bench. I think his playmaking would help Payne a lot. I’d need more than just Sabonis coming back though to make it worth it. Hence Lavert. I don’t love Lavert, but he’s talented.
Still, I don’t think I’d do this in season. Not when we are 41-10 and have a great shot at the title. There’s a chance this completely throws us off. Sabonis strikes me as a guy that can produce when he’s featured, but might struggle as a role player.
This works though:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8tn7dou
Paul/Payne
Booker/Lavert
Bridges/Johnson
Crowder/Johnson
McGee/Sabonis
I’d still give Sabonis 30 minutes, but I’d rather he anchor the 2nd unit. I’d mostly have him play all the minutes Paul is on the bench. I think his playmaking would help Payne a lot. I’d need more than just Sabonis coming back though to make it worth it. Hence Lavert. I don’t love Lavert, but he’s talented.
Still, I don’t think I’d do this in season. Not when we are 41-10 and have a great shot at the title. There’s a chance this completely throws us off. Sabonis strikes me as a guy that can produce when he’s featured, but might struggle as a role player.
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Sabonis is a nice offensive player but his defense is embarrassing. I don't see any way to acquire him without Ayton and I don't think I'd do that mid-season.
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I don't see the point of trading great defense & efficient offense for good offense & poor defense.
If you want to go from championship contender to championship hopeful maybe.
If you want to go from championship contender to championship hopeful maybe.
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The only way they lose him is if they don't match a four-year max, which I can't see happening. A sign & trade? Sure, that's possible. But I don't see where Sabonis would make them a better team. He doesn't fill the real needs this team has lately - bench scoring and bench backcourt play.
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Well if he’s willing to come off the bench he fills it. He can be a playmaking hub in the 2nd unit which would limit how much backcourt help we need.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:36 amThe only way they lose him is if they don't match a four-year max, which I can't see happening. A sign & trade? Sure, that's possible. But I don't see where Sabonis would make them a better team. He doesn't fill the real needs this team has lately - bench scoring and bench backcourt play.
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Even if we traded for Sabonis without giving up Ayton it might throw us off! I would still probably do it, if we don't have to give up too much, since he would help with rebounding and playmaking.Split T wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:10 amIf we know we’re losing Ayton in the offseason, then maybe. But I’d still rather S&T Ayton in the offseason.
This works though:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8tn7dou
Paul/Payne
Booker/Lavert
Bridges/Johnson
Crowder/Johnson
McGee/Sabonis
I’d still give Sabonis 30 minutes, but I’d rather he anchor the 2nd unit. I’d mostly have him play all the minutes Paul is on the bench. I think his playmaking would help Payne a lot. I’d need more than just Sabonis coming back though to make it worth it. Hence Lavert. I don’t love Lavert, but he’s talented.
Still, I don’t think I’d do this in season. Not when we are 41-10 and have a great shot at the title. There’s a chance this completely throws us off. Sabonis strikes me as a guy that can produce when he’s featured, but might struggle as a role player.
But to trade Ayton for him would be utter insanity.
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Ya it’d be a huge risk. I doubt its anythingJeremyG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:08 amEven if we traded for Sabonis without giving up Ayton it might throw us off! I would still probably do it, if we don't have to give up too much, since he would help with rebounding and playmaking.Split T wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:10 amIf we know we’re losing Ayton in the offseason, then maybe. But I’d still rather S&T Ayton in the offseason.
This works though:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8tn7dou
Paul/Payne
Booker/Lavert
Bridges/Johnson
Crowder/Johnson
McGee/Sabonis
I’d still give Sabonis 30 minutes, but I’d rather he anchor the 2nd unit. I’d mostly have him play all the minutes Paul is on the bench. I think his playmaking would help Payne a lot. I’d need more than just Sabonis coming back though to make it worth it. Hence Lavert. I don’t love Lavert, but he’s talented.
Still, I don’t think I’d do this in season. Not when we are 41-10 and have a great shot at the title. There’s a chance this completely throws us off. Sabonis strikes me as a guy that can produce when he’s featured, but might struggle as a role player.
But to trade Ayton for him would be utter insanity.
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That makes sense, he’d be great next to Luka and Zion(if he ever comes back)
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Zion having a long term play in the NBA is about as likely as me seeing Sasquatch or the loch Ness monster.
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I like Sabonis, but if we trade Ayton for him, I will cry. Ayton is a huge part of why we got to the Finals last year, and as others have pointed out, Sabonis is not a good defender. I see the posts above saying that Sabonis would anchor our second unit, and I ask: do you really want to trade Ayton for a backup?? The only way I'd want to move on from Ayton would be if he has told our FO privately that he will not stay here long-term.
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Well I’m the one who mentioned him anchoring the 2nd unit, but I also said I wouldn’t trade Ayton for him unless we weren’t bringing him back. In that scenario I’d still prefer to wait and S&T Ayton in the summer.