NBA.com writer Mark Medina doesn't see that changing.
"Don’t expect a draft-day trade, either, considering the Suns hardly want to break up a team still equipped to overcome their recent second-round flameout," Medina wrote. "Instead, look for the Suns to address their roster needs during free agency."
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I think Indy mentioned something along the lines of this earlier, but if Ivey is still available at #4, it sort of makes a lot of sense for both teams to do something along the lines of Sabonis + #4 for Ayton, right? Or, the Kings being the Kings, maybe they keep the #4 and give Sabonis and Mitchell (or Fox)?
I just think you replace some of the Ayton production with Sabonis, and you possibly get the PG of the future in Ivey to serve as an understudy with CP3 and take occasional starting spots to let CP3 rest.
And I say all of this as someone who would prefer to keep Ayton around.
I just think you replace some of the Ayton production with Sabonis, and you possibly get the PG of the future in Ivey to serve as an understudy with CP3 and take occasional starting spots to let CP3 rest.
And I say all of this as someone who would prefer to keep Ayton around.
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Maybe that is just their way of avoiding tampering charges later by saying they were talking about Cam and DEFINITELY NOT AYTON.Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:58 amIs it? Why? If we’re not including Ayton in the discussion it seems fine…but I don’t know the specific rules.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:55 amI think that is tampering/collusion.
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I don't know who said this, but it seems like Monty and Jones (and probably Book and CamP) would prefer a floor spacing big that can make plays. But honestly Chris Paul has always played (and maximized) rim runners/lob threats. Wonder if there is a power dynamic there...wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:20 amI think Indy mentioned something along the lines of this earlier, but if Ivey is still available at #4, it sort of makes a lot of sense for both teams to do something along the lines of Sabonis + #4 for Ayton, right? Or, the Kings being the Kings, maybe they keep the #4 and give Sabonis and Mitchell (or Fox)?
I just think you replace some of the Ayton production with Sabonis, and you possibly get the PG of the future in Ivey to serve as an understudy with CP3 and take occasional starting spots to let CP3 rest.
And I say all of this as someone who would prefer to keep Ayton around.
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Well ok that does make some senseIndy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:21 amMaybe that is just their way of avoiding tampering charges later by saying they were talking about Cam and DEFINITELY NOT AYTON.Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:58 amIs it? Why? If we’re not including Ayton in the discussion it seems fine…but I don’t know the specific rules.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:55 amI think that is tampering/collusion.
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Retooling for the future isn’t the worst idea. What I would give to be a fly on the wall with the convos these guys are having.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:23 amI don't know who said this, but it seems like Monty and Jones (and probably Book and CamP) would prefer a floor spacing big that can make plays. But honestly Chris Paul has always played (and maximized) rim runners/lob threats. Wonder if there is a power dynamic there...wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:20 amI think Indy mentioned something along the lines of this earlier, but if Ivey is still available at #4, it sort of makes a lot of sense for both teams to do something along the lines of Sabonis + #4 for Ayton, right? Or, the Kings being the Kings, maybe they keep the #4 and give Sabonis and Mitchell (or Fox)?
I just think you replace some of the Ayton production with Sabonis, and you possibly get the PG of the future in Ivey to serve as an understudy with CP3 and take occasional starting spots to let CP3 rest.
And I say all of this as someone who would prefer to keep Ayton around.
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I’d trade with Sacramento, but I don’t think you’d get Sabonis and 4…Sacramento apparently wants to win so I think they’d want to keep Sabonis and Fox…though Ayton and Sabonis don’t seem like a good fit. Barnes, Holmes and #4 would do it for me though. We could throw in Crowder.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:20 amI think Indy mentioned something along the lines of this earlier, but if Ivey is still available at #4, it sort of makes a lot of sense for both teams to do something along the lines of Sabonis + #4 for Ayton, right? Or, the Kings being the Kings, maybe they keep the #4 and give Sabonis and Mitchell (or Fox)?
I just think you replace some of the Ayton production with Sabonis, and you possibly get the PG of the future in Ivey to serve as an understudy with CP3 and take occasional starting spots to let CP3 rest.
And I say all of this as someone who would prefer to keep Ayton around.
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I am the other side of this--At this point I would do Sabonis for Ayton straight up.Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:44 amI’d trade with Sacramento, but I don’t think you’d get Sabonis and 4…Sacramento apparently wants to win so I think they’d want to keep Sabonis and Fox…though Ayton and Sabonis don’t seem like a good fit. Barnes, Holmes and #4 would do it for me though. We could throw in Crowder.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:20 amI think Indy mentioned something along the lines of this earlier, but if Ivey is still available at #4, it sort of makes a lot of sense for both teams to do something along the lines of Sabonis + #4 for Ayton, right? Or, the Kings being the Kings, maybe they keep the #4 and give Sabonis and Mitchell (or Fox)?
I just think you replace some of the Ayton production with Sabonis, and you possibly get the PG of the future in Ivey to serve as an understudy with CP3 and take occasional starting spots to let CP3 rest.
And I say all of this as someone who would prefer to keep Ayton around.
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It only works if this is part of a plan to stock up on assets that can be moved for a superstar like KD. Cam is a known quantity without a ton of upside: he is what he is for the most part at 26 years old. Great 3 point shooter, ok handles, can dunk a little, solid defender, works hard within a system. Dangling the 8th pick in a trade is a lot more salivating.ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:56 amHere's the blurb, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense since we don't need to free up cap space to re-sign Cam or DA. Also not sure it even makes sense for the Pels since they have Jones and Murphy who are kind of similar to Cam. Maybe this would be part of a larger move somehow?
If I see this move, it makes me much more likely to believe there's something cooking for KD.
Or, Sarver's just being cheap. That's probably an even better explanation.
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How many #8 picks in the last 10 years are better than Cam? I am not sure the Nets would like that more than Cam if they were trading KD and Kyrie walks.
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It's a perceived value thing with human psychology. Some young athletic kid with tons of upside (Dyson) seems more appealing than a known quantity that's good but not great. It's like buying lottery tickets. We know intellectually and mathematically that it's a bad investment, but we buy them anyway because "WHAT IF WE HIT THE JACKPOT!"
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Yeah, I get the psychology and I fall into that trap at times too. I guess I am not sure that is how Marks thinks.
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If you're rebuilding, it's better to roll the dice and hope for a star. If you're trying to round out a championship caliber club, you go with the numbers and known values. (i.e. swing for the fences when you got nothing to lose, take the infield single when you need a run in the bottom of the 9th and its tied.)
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I honestly like Brogdon, but clearly not as much as some of these other teams...
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It’s the same report as before, Lowe had Givony on and he’s the one who wrote the mock draft that mentioned it. Just wanting to clarify so people don’t think Lowe is also reporting it.
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If we’re interested into just buying our way into the draft, Minny might be interesting option with 3 second round picks.
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